Ladder bar tuning / adjusting - Page 4

joespanova · 04-20-2017, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter

I have a 66 Chevy II with a old school leaf spring ladder bar set up from the early 80's (I'm not joking). We have a 327350hp combo. We have the bars in the bottom hole with front shocks turned as tight as they will go and travel limiter a tight as they can go also. We are trying to stop the car from turning over. Anybody at the track can verify what I'm.saying. This thing goes higher in second gear than the actual launch. We run a stick car so different from setups talked about on here. Last time out in SS/H we ran career best of 9.65@135 with a 1.43 60'

Ed , my car IS a stick car also........2.98 low , 5.67 Rr. Grs....... McLeod plate , aluminum wheel.
You cant be happy with 1.40s 60s

Oh yeah , almost forgot.I have Chassis Works "floaters' on mine too.............with mono leafs. The car was built in early 90s.

Ed Carpenter · 04-21-2017, 12:55 AM

I have a 3.19 with a 6.17 at 3025lbs. 2.98 isn't enough IMO

Chevy55 · 04-21-2017, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter

I have a 3.19 with a 6.17 at 3025lbs. 2.98 isn't enough IMO

Those are very impressive numbers that you're running Ed. Off topic but if you don't mind me asking, what rear are you running and what kind of gear life?

Ed Carpenter · 04-21-2017, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy55

Those are very impressive numbers that you're running Ed. Off topic but if you don't mind me asking, what rear are you running and what kind of gear life?

Dana 60 current ring and pinion has about 70 runs on it.

Mike Pearson · 04-21-2017, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by joespanova

Ed , my car IS a stick car also........2.98 low , 5.67 Rr. Grs....... McLeod plate , aluminum wheel.
You cant be happy with 1.40s 60s

Oh yeah , almost forgot.I have Chassis Works "floaters' on mine too.............with mono leafs. The car was built in early 90s.

Those are rear wheel 60 ft times. You wont run as fast as Ed is with a true 1.40 60 ft. Great to see Ed's car running that well.

Mike Pearson · 04-21-2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter

I have a 66 Chevy II with a old school leaf spring ladder bar set up from the early 80's (I'm not joking). We have a 327350hp combo. We have the bars in the bottom hole with front shocks turned as tight as they will go and travel limiter a tight as they can go also. We are trying to stop the car from turning over. Anybody at the track can verify what I'm.saying. This thing goes higher in second gear than the actual launch. We run a stick car so different from setups talked about on here. Last time out in SS/H we ran career best of 9.65@135 with a 1.43 60'

Check and see if Santhuff makes shocks for your car. They will control the wheelstands. They aren't cheap but are the best. Good to see your car running that strong. That is getting it done!

Mike Pearson · 04-21-2017, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joespanova

Geezus...........
see this is what this is really all about.......better 60s ,launch etc etc.........
I'm consistent in the 9.40s and I've NEVER had a 1.20 ANYTHING 1.30s YES..........1.32-1.34ish......

I have a 1.96 low in the glide and a 5.86 in the rear with a 100 inch roll out radial tire. The glide is handicapping me a bit in comparison to the 3 speed cars I suspect I could pick up about .015 with a good 3 speed trans. I have the power but cant run the short times of some of the really fast cars in my class. I have run next to those guys and their short times blew my mind.

Hacksaw · 04-21-2017, 06:55 PM

I always thought the Santhuff's fronts big difference was their compression valving, controlling the car after it comes down from a large wheel stand. Are their rebound qualities equally unique?

Ed Carpenter · 04-21-2017, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joespanova

Geezus...........
see this is what this is really all about.......better 60s ,launch etc etc.........
I'm consistent in the 9.40s and I've NEVER had a 1.20 ANYTHING 1.30s YES..........1.32-1.34ish......

Sorry I never asked what combo and class do you run? Ed

joespanova · 04-21-2017, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter

Sorry I never asked what combo and class do you run? Ed

I run nostalgia SS and FX stuff........not current traditional stuff like you're doing but fun none the less......still a lot of work though , mainly because I do everything myself , engines , trans , rear end etc etc........and the body aint what it used to be and is very sore at the end of the day.
A 377 is in the car now but I've been a 9.41@ 141 with the ol' 355......but that engine would vary from that best to a low .60 high .50. 23 degree std runner head.
The 377 is the same engine basically , just the 4.155 bore and more compression. Same heads , cam , intake etc etc.
This is an old video..........I've posted here before , but here it is ..this was with the 355......9.51, 139ish. Launch RPM was realtively low this day IIRC

I expect the 377 to get me in the 9.30s in good conditions.

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Hacksaw Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 884 Likes: 209 Liked 311 Times in 175 Posts	Re: Ladder bar tuning / adjusting I always thought the Santhuff's fronts big difference was their compression valving, controlling the car after it comes down from a large wheel stand. Are their rebound qualities equally unique?