No tech penalties.

[cmracing]

Originally Posted by novassdude

I think one thing that is going to be a big question is what happens when a racer is found illegal half way thru a race? Just for conversation sake say the racer is found to have a performance enhancing or electronic enhancement that helped him win a few rounds. Now you have a couple racers that lost to an illegal car. Do they get put back in the ladder some how?

Will never happen. We face this same problem with normal Bracket Racing also. The cheater will get tossed, and anyone that lost to that person are spectators. Can't undo it........ But depending on what the violation was, that cheater can be fined, banned from that track for a month/year, or banned from NHRA racing for quite sometime.........

Back in my roundy-round days, that type of thing was handled off-site if you catch my meaning..........

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by cmracing

Will never happen. We face this same problem with normal Bracket Racing also. The cheater will get tossed, and anyone that lost to that person are spectators. Can't undo it........ But depending on what the violation was, that cheater can be fined, banned from that track for a month/year, or banned from NHRA racing for quite sometime.........

Back in my roundy-round days, that type of thing was handled off-site if you catch my meaning..........

Depends on what the cheating infraction is. Lied about helmet expiration has nothing to do with outcome of round. When 2 cars are classed in different classes and 1 has (wrong carb, trans, motor) has nothing to do with outcome of round. Shoe polish round. If 2 cars are in the same class and heads up race is in play and (wrong carb, trans, motor) then outcome of round could be over turned if winning car is caught cheating.
These are 3 ways of cheating and only 1 scenario could change the outcome of the round. The other 2 ways of cheating should have a fine depending on how bad the infraction is.
There are 2 ways of cheating. Safety infraction and performance advantage infraction.

[cmracing]

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

Depends on what the cheating infraction is. Lied about helmet expiration has nothing to do with outcome of round. When 2 cars are classed in different classes and 1 has (wrong carb, trans, motor) has nothing to do with outcome of round. Shoe polish round. If 2 cars are in the same class and heads up race is in play and (wrong carb, trans, motor) then outcome of round could be over turned if winning car is caught cheating.
These are 3 ways of cheating and only 1 scenario could change the outcome of the round. The other 2 ways of cheating should have a fine depending on how bad the infraction is.
There are 2 ways of cheating. Safety infraction and performance advantage infraction.

You are correct. A heads-up round and the winner is found to be illegal after the pass, the other car is re-instated. But, what if the loser was also illegal but drove past the scales/fuel check after the loss? Does that car go through tech after being re-instated? Who knows what they may have changed after the loss just in case...........

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by cmracing

You are correct. A heads-up round and the winner is found to be illegal after the pass, the other car is re-instated. But, what if the loser was also illegal but drove past the scales/fuel check after the loss? Does that car go through tech after being re-instated? Who knows what they may have changed after the loss just in case...........

My understanding is if you go past scales your out. I guess the answer would be to never bypass scale until winner is verified legal. If both are illegal both are out

[Billy Nees]

Once upon a time a million years ago, I was at a National Event and after losing the round the NHRA Techs weighed and fuel checked the winner so I drove away. They also did a quick spot check on him and found some loose ballast in the car. A Tech Inspector came and got me and told me to go back to the scales "NOW!".

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Once upon a time a million years ago, I was at a National Event and after losing the round the NHRA Techs weighed and fuel checked the winner so I drove away. They also did a quick spot check on him and found some loose ballast in the car. A Tech Inspector came and got me and told me to go back to the scales "NOW!".

Had that happen too. Long time ago.

[Marty Rinehart Jr]

Thanks for sharing that Denny

[Adger Smith]

Jeff,
I disagree with you assessment that the wrong engine, carb & tranny makes no difference in the Shoe polish rounds. I think it could. If a guy has a small engine class and he has trouble making it run the index all he has to do is up the engine size or cheat it up someway and he is in the program instead of out. I would be pissed if a guy that was not even capable of running the index legally got in the program and beat my honest/legal car.

[Chris1529]

It could/would affect qualifying positions in general.

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

Jeff,
I disagree with you assessment that the wrong engine, carb & tranny makes no difference in the Shoe polish rounds. I think it could. If a guy has a small engine class and he has trouble making it run the index all he has to do is up the engine size or cheat it up someway and he is in the program instead of out. I would be pissed if a guy that was not even capable of running the index legally got in the program and beat my honest/legal car.

Valid point on a car not qualifying. Also Adger thanks on the high altitude adjustments a couple weeks ago it worked.