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Old 12-08-2016, 08:09 PM   #1
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Hi,

How about allowing the front battery in stock to be relocated to the trunk so that you haven't a hot battery lead that is 12' long going from the battery disconnect to the front battery. Even with the disconnect off the 12' long battery cable that is capable of carrying more than 500 amps straight to ground if the cable is damaged is hot...If something bad happened and the fuel system were damaged and leaking the battery and cable are still in the engine compartment and hot..........

Just my thoughts because it would make the cars safer, easier to wire and lighter....

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I thought a battery disconnect was not necessary for a single front mounted battery?
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Old 12-08-2016, 10:28 PM   #2
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NHRA tech department clarifies recent lifter rule change

The change is to allow the use of a solid lifter in place of a hydraulic; you may not replace a flat tappet with a roller.

So what effect if any would there be on a 1993 build chrysler hydraulic lifter on a 383 big block. I assume new valve springs would be needed. Didn't change the rockers, still original as delivered.

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Old 12-08-2016, 11:18 PM   #3
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NHRA tech department clarifies recent lifter rule change

The change is to allow the use of a solid lifter in place of a hydraulic; you may not replace a flat tappet with a roller.

So what effect if any would there be on a 1993 build chrysler hydraulic lifter on a 383 big block. I assume new valve springs would be needed. Didn't change the rockers, still original as delivered.

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Can't see why new springs would be needed, better have adjustable rockers though. I thinking solids are lighter than hyd. anyway. Also a lot cheaper.

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Old 12-08-2016, 11:40 PM   #4
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I am glad I run Pure Stock!
Old Stock without any of today's issues!
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:49 AM   #5
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I thought a battery disconnect was not necessary for a single front mounted battery?
No, not for a single front. But with a front mounted and a rear mounted batteries, the disconnect has to kill a running engine.
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:16 AM   #6
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Probably 95% of hydraulic cam stockers have solid lifters already and have had for many years,they just have .015'' travel in the pushrod seat and are considered hydraulic by the rules,it is a solid lifter with the pushrod seat cut for .015'' travel,nothing hydraulic about it and .010-.012'' of that travel is taken out when the valve is set depending on lash the lifter is compressing .003-.005'' the only difference is the lash is between the pushrod seat and lifter body rather than between the cam and lifter.
This rule doesn't change the need for ceramic,tool steel or whatever kind of special lifter is being used,it doesn't change the cam profiles they are already solid lifter profiles.
Only thing it changes is a hyd. roller that has a true hyd. roller lifter which has probably been modified to only have .015'' travel will now be able to take them out and replace with a much lighter solid roller lifter,which won't make any difference because they are already running a spring strong enough to handle the extra lifter weight,so maybe they get a few more runs out of their springs.
Nothing to get excited about.
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Old 12-09-2016, 03:24 PM   #7
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Probably 95% of hydraulic cam stockers have solid lifters already and have had for many years,they just have .015'' travel in the pushrod seat and are considered hydraulic by the rules,it is a solid lifter with the pushrod seat cut for .015'' travel,nothing hydraulic about it and .010-.012'' of that travel is taken out when the valve is set depending on lash the lifter is compressing .003-.005'' the only difference is the lash is between the pushrod seat and lifter body rather than between the cam and lifter.
This rule doesn't change the need for ceramic,tool steel or whatever kind of special lifter is being used,it doesn't change the cam profiles they are already solid lifter profiles.
Only thing it changes is a hyd. roller that has a true hyd. roller lifter which has probably been modified to only have .015'' travel will now be able to take them out and replace with a much lighter solid roller lifter,which won't make any difference because they are already running a spring strong enough to handle the extra lifter weight,so maybe they get a few more runs out of their springs.
Nothing to get excited about.
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Exactly, and well said Mike!!!
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