The death of bracket racing........

THE LEGEND · 12-28-2007, 07:46 PM

I saw a guy at Food Lion a while back that had sold his car. I asked him why he sold it. His answer was I just can't afford to run my car for $1200 to win. The first two things that came to mind was.

1) The local track pays $1200 to win with free entry every Friday night. They have two rds of buybacks but it's still free entry ($10 gate fee).

2) This is what made me laugh. The guy never won a race. In fact I don't recall him winning many rds. Why should it matter what the purse was.

It goes back to what someone else posted the Fun factored finally lost out to the aggravation/cost factor.

Chip Johnson

Dick Butler · 12-29-2007, 10:33 AM

With 1000s of racers and everyone elgible to run 999 participants will be disappointed. People who have lost track of Class Racing missed the fact that these classes when they had 10 or 15 cars at any CLASS race at Nationals became mini Goals. Mini rewards . Every one of the 15-20 owners of a particular class car watched the weekly Dragster for news of their competitors on the East Coast or West Coast. They used their competitors et as mini GOALS. They worked nights on the car trying to surpass these "real " ETS. Their work had REWARDS to keep them running or working on the car.
Today with only 3 cars or less in a class in most cases the rewards are lost by not even knowing who is running where. No real class competition at National events are possible due to statistics. 100 classes divided by 400 cars in the US means 4 cars per. East coast gets ONE car in a class per event or West coast has one guy tow to run the event or may not even get an entry.
What is a Bracket guys mini goals? ............. SILENCE. Get to the track? Wax the car. NO one at the meet is a parallel combo to give you input on if you are achieving anything. Maybe you dont care, and that friends is why people will quit. The only goal can be the overall Win with chances of 1 in 50-75-1000?
See class racing has rewards for the racer mentally, which stimulate a sense of achievment while spending the money, spending the time and energy.
Think about going Class racing but pick one that has competition which can give you these encouraging rewards. Self esteem is about mini rewards and they are here if you really want them...
I refuse to Disclaim this one..... Dick BUtler

krugracing12 · 12-29-2007, 12:53 PM

Mongo
Congrats on your second child we hope all goes well, Christmas was good exept I worked Christmas eve so it was hectic when I got home at 8 am. How was yours? I think we are going to race the junior more this year so I will probably see you at some point. I may be headed your way to drop off a motor at PMR.

Mr Cook
I am no electronics or bracket racing wizard, nor have I used either box. but if you bring a 6.90 dragster that is de-tuned to 7.10 and is set up to auto-tune to that number as it goes downtrack, for that matter any car that is oblivios to track or air changes regardless of ET would offer an "BigTime" advantage. The Davis box alone, In a low 7 sec car on a crappy track where 9 second cars are spinning downtrack offers an unfair advantage. These days everyone wants to chase, hold a few and drive the stripe. With out these things the fast cars were at the mercy of track/air conditions, so driving the stripe was still a guess. I don't care if it's 8.90, 9.90 heads up or dial-in with a full tree, if half of the equation (the cars ET) is a "sure" thing and your only lifting if it is "in the sack" you are going to win rounds. Fortunately this does not always mean a win, so people that do cheat often have the pleasure of cheating to lose. As far as my knowledge of bracket racing goes, I was under the immpression it was supposed to create a level playing field for all participants. Unfortunately there will probably always be someone that has to "get an edge" on the rest of us, and will do whatever it takes. Have a safe and happy new year.

Bill Krug

12-28-2007, 07:46 PM	#1
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The death of bracket racing........ I saw a guy at Food Lion a while back that had sold his car. I asked him why he sold it. His answer was I just can't afford to run my car for $1200 to win. The first two things that came to mind was. 1) The local track pays $1200 to win with free entry every Friday night. They have two rds of buybacks but it's still free entry ($10 gate fee). 2) This is what made me laugh. The guy never won a race. In fact I don't recall him winning many rds. Why should it matter what the purse was. It goes back to what someone else posted the Fun factored finally lost out to the aggravation/cost factor. Chip Johnson

12-29-2007, 10:33 AM	#2
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: The death of bracket racing........ With 1000s of racers and everyone elgible to run 999 participants will be disappointed. People who have lost track of Class Racing missed the fact that these classes when they had 10 or 15 cars at any CLASS race at Nationals became mini Goals. Mini rewards . Every one of the 15-20 owners of a particular class car watched the weekly Dragster for news of their competitors on the East Coast or West Coast. They used their competitors et as mini GOALS. They worked nights on the car trying to surpass these "real " ETS. Their work had REWARDS to keep them running or working on the car. Today with only 3 cars or less in a class in most cases the rewards are lost by not even knowing who is running where. No real class competition at National events are possible due to statistics. 100 classes divided by 400 cars in the US means 4 cars per. East coast gets ONE car in a class per event or West coast has one guy tow to run the event or may not even get an entry. What is a Bracket guys mini goals? ............. SILENCE. Get to the track? Wax the car. NO one at the meet is a parallel combo to give you input on if you are achieving anything. Maybe you dont care, and that friends is why people will quit. The only goal can be the overall Win with chances of 1 in 50-75-1000? See class racing has rewards for the racer mentally, which stimulate a sense of achievment while spending the money, spending the time and energy. Think about going Class racing but pick one that has competition which can give you these encouraging rewards. Self esteem is about mini rewards and they are here if you really want them... I refuse to Disclaim this one..... Dick BUtler

12-29-2007, 12:53 PM	#3
krugracing12 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 171 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The death of bracket racing........ Mongo Congrats on your second child we hope all goes well, Christmas was good exept I worked Christmas eve so it was hectic when I got home at 8 am. How was yours? I think we are going to race the junior more this year so I will probably see you at some point. I may be headed your way to drop off a motor at PMR. Mr Cook I am no electronics or bracket racing wizard, nor have I used either box. but if you bring a 6.90 dragster that is de-tuned to 7.10 and is set up to auto-tune to that number as it goes downtrack, for that matter any car that is oblivios to track or air changes regardless of ET would offer an "BigTime" advantage. The Davis box alone, In a low 7 sec car on a crappy track where 9 second cars are spinning downtrack offers an unfair advantage. These days everyone wants to chase, hold a few and drive the stripe. With out these things the fast cars were at the mercy of track/air conditions, so driving the stripe was still a guess. I don't care if it's 8.90, 9.90 heads up or dial-in with a full tree, if half of the equation (the cars ET) is a "sure" thing and your only lifting if it is "in the sack" you are going to win rounds. Fortunately this does not always mean a win, so people that do cheat often have the pleasure of cheating to lose. As far as my knowledge of bracket racing goes, I was under the immpression it was supposed to create a level playing field for all participants. Unfortunately there will probably always be someone that has to "get an edge" on the rest of us, and will do whatever it takes. Have a safe and happy new year. Bill Krug