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Old 06-26-2016, 06:06 PM   #1
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Default Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index?

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I don't have a chupacabra or even a dog in this fight, nor would I want one, but here's a suggestion:
The racers wanted the 10.60 index, right?
Now some of them don't.
So, somebody contact NHRA and suggest anyone who raced AA/SA or AA/S in the last 12 months, gets a vote via email from tech..
10. 60 or 10.75, at the half year point.
There..easy enough.
I suggest the big Cajun guy makes the contact with NHRA

No, that is NOT correct. The guys who asked for AA never asked for 10.60, not a single one that I know of, and most of us were discussing this with each other at the time.

When NHRA created the AA/S and AA/SA classes, the A/SA index was 11.30. Len Imbrogno asked the group of racers what index they wanted for AA, and the index agreed upon was 10.90, and no mention was made of lowering the indexes 3 tenths at any time. I'm not seeing anywhere in Stock or Super Stock where a 0.5 pound weight break equaled 4 tenths to begin with. But the guys who asked for AA asked for some room to let the cars run, that we all agreed on. The truth is, when the indexes were lowered, it brought most of the rest of the classes inline with the 10.90 index for AA. At which point lowering the AA index one tenth to 10.80 would have been reasonable, and pretty much acceptable to everyone.

And yeah, right now, we wouldn't vote, due to a myriad of reasons, we've been out for a year or two. However, we were one of the first to roll out with AA/SA on the windshield, and ran it consistently for quite some time.

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Old 06-26-2016, 06:12 PM   #2
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No, that is NOT correct. The guys who asked for AA never asked for 10.60, not a single one that I know of, and most of us were discussing this with each other at the time.

When NHRA created the AA/S and AA/SA classes, the A/SA index was 11.30. Len Imbrogno asked the group of racers what index they wanted for AA, and the index agreed upon was 10.90, and no mention was made of lowering the indexes 3 tenths at any time. I'm not seeing anywhere in Stock or Super Stock where a 0.5 pound weight break equaled 4 tenths to begin with. But the guys who asked for AA asked for some room to let the cars run, that we all agreed on. The truth is, when the indexes were lowered, it brought most of the rest of the classes inline with the 10.90 index for AA. At which point lowering the AA index one tenth to 10.80 would have been reasonable, and pretty much acceptable to everyone.

And yeah, right now, we wouldn't vote, due to a myriad of reasons, we've been out for a year or two. However, we were one of the first to roll out with AA/SA on the windshield, and ran it consistently for quite some time.

I was afraid someone would say they have been out for a year.
Okay, make it two years then.
Carry on...
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GUMP, Jeff`s challenger Runs A,B,C/SA, is not racing as a Drag Pak car, Different rules on rear suspension on stock production cars per rule book, look it up.Tom
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:08 PM   #4
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GUMP, Jeff`s challenger Runs A,B,C/SA, is not racing as a Drag Pak car, Different rules on rear suspension on stock production cars per rule book, look it up.Tom
Understood. I'm just telling you what the NHRA allows for these cars. There is no way that you can make the factory control arms work. Have you looked under a late model GTO or Corvette stocker lately?
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No, Mark, we have been out a little over two years, again, due to various reasons. I'm not posting so much as a vote, but rather just to bring the facts about AA to light.

However, we do intend to return, it's just that the road back is not as short and easy as we'd like. We're a lot closer to the 396/375 aluminum head engine than the ZL-1, which went on the back burner. We do plan to build the ZL-1, maybe even as a stick combination. But we need to do the 396 just to get back on our feet and back to the track, it's been a rough couple of years.

And I can see the point some have about the 10.60 index. The problem is that at Indy, for example, you need to be solidly in the 9.70 zone, in hot and humid weather, to be pretty certain to make the field. No doubt that a few can do it, at least they have an 80% chance, if nothing goes wrong. Maybe if I work real hard, and we have some good things happen, we might be one of those that can.

As far as voting goes, I'll bow to Rayburn's rule, I respect the guy, we don't vote until we return.
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Must be past these guys bedtime, nothing for 5 hours now!
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