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Old 06-06-2016, 04:53 PM   #1
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I THOUGHT that there were only two 4 door Hemi cars, both 66 Dodge Coronets. Some combinations appear in the guide that could have been built, even though they never actually were. I don't believe there ever was a 67 Plymouth Hemi station wagon built upon the assembly line, even though at least one was raced in NHRA competition. Mopar did the engineering and supplied a shipping weight. We need Paul Cresine back for verification.

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Old 06-06-2016, 06:40 PM   #2
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I remember seeing a 66 or 67 Hemi Belvedere 4 door at the local hang out about 70 or 71. Can't remember all the details, but it was a plain jane car with dog dish hubcaps. Beige in color, if I remember correctly.
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Old 06-06-2016, 09:14 PM   #3
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I think Gaylon Govier found a couple in the paperwork while researching the files. I know in the 66 Parts Manual one of the pictures in the body section is a Coronet Wagon with a 426 Hemi. Of course those are illustrations. The 70-71 parts manual are combined years and I can assure you there a couple of things put in there just for NHRA, but I ain't sayin what. And maybe they existed. In 1969 the 440 Dart and Cuda were never offered to the general public dealers. Nobody was more intuned with the performance than us. But they made them. There are several blueprint errors from that era, but I guess now they are fact. After that many years it don't matter. I still have the parts books back to 1960.
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Old 06-13-2016, 10:53 PM   #4
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I think Gaylon Govier found a couple in the paperwork while researching the files. I know in the 66 Parts Manual one of the pictures in the body section is a Coronet Wagon with a 426 Hemi. Of course those are illustrations. The 70-71 parts manual are combined years and I can assure you there a couple of things put in there just for NHRA, but I ain't sayin what. And maybe they existed. In 1969 the 440 Dart and Cuda were never offered to the general public dealers. Nobody was more intuned with the performance than us. But they made them. There are several blueprint errors from that era, but I guess now they are fact. After that many years it don't matter. I still have the parts books back to 1960.
Actually, the '69 440 Dart GTS and 440 'Cuda were legit production cars that came out mid-year and offered to the general public (production figures indicate over 600 440 powered Dart GTS and over 30 440 'Cudas - {all autos} were produced). They weren't "package cars" and came with a full factory warranty and all street equipment. A brainchild of both Dick Maxwell and Tom Hoover (with the blessing of Bob Cahill), the 1969 440 Dart and 'Cuda were built right on the assembly line at Dodge Main (Hamtramck). Both Super Stock and Car Craft magazine ran road/drag tests on them back in the day. This package has been legal in Stock and Super Stock for decades, Now, the '68 440 Dart GTS, that's a slightly different animal simply due to low production figures that regulate it to Super Stock only.
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Some combinations appear in the guide that could have been built, even though they never actually were.
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In the past many specs were sent to NHRA pre-production. There is still a 1970 Monte Carlo convertible shown in the classguide.
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Old 06-07-2016, 12:41 AM   #6
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Gary Ostrich raced a 66-67 Plymouth wagon in Super Stock. Don't know if it was produced that way. Al Corda would know.
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Old 06-07-2016, 07:55 AM   #7
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COMING TO A TRACK NEAR YOU!!! on open trailer to boot


Picked this four door Deluxe puppy up yesterday. Going to make a hemi stocker. Love the paint but NHRA said car must be "presentable". How about that FBI trailer hitch. Phish
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:43 AM   #8
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I have a 66 Belvedere "Satellite" 2 dr hard top hemi if anyone has any interest.
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Old 06-07-2016, 11:25 AM   #9
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There were only two 4 door Hemi cars, both ended up in Wichita (go figure) back in the 70's. I rebuilt the engine in the car the Garlits has in his museum. It was neat to talk to him about that car at PRI several years ago, he claims he still drives it from time to time. The car had all original parts and the engine had about 166k miles as I remember and there was very minimal wear, we even went back with the original bore size and the crank just needed polishing. There were several strange markings stamped around on the block and with a little research it was determined that there were special bearing sizes (plus or minus .001) for each type of stamping. Cant remember all the details but it was amazing how well that Hemi held up for that many miles, back when most engines didn't make it past 100k.

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Old 06-07-2016, 11:35 AM   #10
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Currently, there are four known '66 Hemi Coronet 4-door Sedans, 3 Deluxe models, 1 440 Model.

1 - Red, tan interior automatic car.
1- White, tan interior automatic car.
1- Bronze, tan interior automatic car.
1- Blue, blue interior 4-speed car. This is the 440 Model.

There is a '66 Hemi Plymouth Belvedere II 4-door that is known out of the New Jersey area. The car is believed to be long gone. There are numerous detailed photographs of the car from the 1960's/70's, but the VIN is not known at this time.

There is also a '67 Hemi Belvedere 4-door in Finland. It is the only known factory built '67 Hemi 4-door car at this time.

The original owner (ex-Dodge Dealer) of my '66 Hemi Coronet, claims that when he bought my car at the Dealer's auction, there were 3 '66 Hemi Coronet 4-doors there, all white/green interior, 4-speed cars. Supposedly one went to Town & Country Dodge in Eastern Ohio, where the drivetrain was removed and the car sold as used with a 273/318 in it.

Until someone sits down and goes through the Chrysler IBM Card Archives, the true number of '66-67 Hemi 4-doors will be unknown.

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