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Old 05-07-2016, 11:38 AM   #81
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Hey Mickey why not close the scales too?
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Old 05-07-2016, 11:56 AM   #82
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I think running quick within a restricted rule set using mostly factory parts is the ultimate in cool. Just think it is asinine to have strict rules and then bracket race.
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:56 PM   #83
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It's about time for the mod and sealed motor supporters to jump in here.
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Old 05-07-2016, 01:30 PM   #84
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I think running quick within a restricted rule set using mostly factory parts is the ultimate in cool. Just think it is asinine to have strict rules and then bracket race.
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:15 PM   #85
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Hey Mickey why not close the scales too?
yep that is where they get tangled
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Old 05-07-2016, 08:54 PM   #86
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yep that is where they get tangled
I saw that one coming! LOL!

If we ever changed to running off of the index again during eliminations, I would buy Shaw's old Cadillac! That would piss some people off!
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Old 05-07-2016, 10:56 PM   #87
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I saw that one coming! LOL!

If we ever changed to running off of the index again during eliminations, I would buy Shaw's old Cadillac! That would piss some people off!
Bryan, I would build my own.
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Old 05-08-2016, 09:03 AM   #88
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I'll try to ask a few random drivers in stock or super stock if they are looking for a heads up race or trying to prevent one.
The question is flawed. I'm usually the slow guy. Of course I try to prevent a heads-up run. That doesn't mean I want to change the rules and gut the core of what class racing is. Principles matter over personal agendas.


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Let me ask, how many members were really asked or even got a message about this subject before the decision came from NHRA?
I had an NHRA official completely IGNORE a direct rules question multiple times (after I'd already been passed around by two other officials). He started talking about irrelevant things and literally would not even acknowledge that I had asked the question. Rude, incompetent, condescending, and disingenuous. I would have FIRED that man on the spot. NHRA has given me no reason to think that my questions or opinions matter in the first place. I am spending my money elsewhere this year.
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:08 AM   #89
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The question is flawed. I'm usually the slow guy. Of course I try to prevent a heads-up run. That doesn't mean I want to change the rules and gut the core of what class racing is. Principles matter over personal agendas.




I had an NHRA official completely IGNORE a direct rules question multiple times (after I'd already been passed around by two other officials). He started talking about irrelevant things and literally would not even acknowledge that I had asked the question. Rude, incompetent, condescending, and disingenuous. I would have FIRED that man on the spot. NHRA has given me no reason to think that my questions or opinions matter in the first place. I am spending my money elsewhere this year.
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Old 05-08-2016, 11:07 AM   #90
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This has been floating for years. It has been brought up at SRAC, it has been proposed for Indy as a stand alone, it has been brought up as a Sportsnational only item, and it goes along with changes suggested or proposed for AHFS which has run it course IMHO. The NO AHFS at National Opens is a result of people asking it to go away so Somewhere you can run wide open. The AHFS was a result of a previous factoring system that was exposed to politics, but now it has been adjusted, interpreted, to where lots of if not most doubt its' effect. It's kind of like a Swimming Pool Tech told me about salt water pools; it takes about ten years for the flaws to appear from what was ideal on paper. No use in going into the flaws here, my fingers would wear out. I think NHRA might just want to see how fast some of these cars can run; old and new and in between. New being 2008 and newer, Old being carb(s) only, and In Between EFI. Maybe a new factoring system study?
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