Fox Coverage of the Gators - Page 2

Dave Muller · 03-21-2016, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rognelson777

I think NHRA has had bad luck with running other classes before pro finals.

Indy nats a couple of years ago, 1st pair sportsman after Semi's Stocker blows rear off line and gear oils track to 1/8th mile, had to send all other sportsman classes back to pits. Cleanup took longer because of gear oil.

PRO,s, Fans in the stands, and TV crews had to wait for track cleanup.

Was not good for sportsman racing.

Etown nats last couple of years they have run Finals of sportsman down track between Semi,s and finals of pro's

Just my 2 cents

That's fine except that they're already running the cars anyway. It's just a question of whether they show the viewers the races or just show the faces of the announcers.

rboyle · 03-21-2016, 12:09 PM

I thought the bigger issues I had were poor camera angles, amateurish driver interviews, bad editing. As a fan of most motorsport shows I find Nascar has some of the best camera angles. They have cameras in the track, in the wall and it brings you right there. Drag racing can take a page from this coverage. There is NOTHING like the sound, feel and sight of a Nitro car during thr burnout and launch. Yet they almost never showed the burnout. They can have the starters view of the starting line in track at the 330 and guard wall finish line angle. The driver comments before the match weren't very interesting or entrrtaining. TV is all about entertainment and Fox/NHRA are missing entertainment vaule

Don Kennedy · 03-21-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BKSG1198

The problem was that they were only into the 2nd round of eliminations at the Gators when the Pro's ran the finals. It will be interesting when everything aligns at once and maybe they can show the actual finals.

I must say I caved in and bought the All-Access deal and you can call me what you want but, it was great. I think we've gotten so coddled by the likes of Motor Mania and Bangshift with it being free that people have that sticker shock of "Oh my God $99.00, I'm not paying that" but, in reality it's 22 National Events Live (You can go back to Pomona & Arizona if you want to watch those events) for about $1.50 a day. I had it on my computer during the day and went out to dinner at night and watched it on my Iphone and best about it, you hear the PA announcers during the Pro's and Not Tony P. telling me that Carbon Fiber is fiber made of carbon....really???. The best part about it the sportsman stuff is that is also hooked up to the PA announcers so you actually got to hear the races and find out who won and since the sportsman guys ran way later into the day after the pros they kept the live feed going. They just didn't cut it off because the "Pro's" were done for the day. I know with ESPN 3 you never had announcers and I know at a few tracks I had to look for the win light bulb in the corner to find out who won because they just panned out to the end of the track. I thought it was great, I know some people said as a member of NHRA you should get it for Free or a discounted rate but, hopefully they will work out the bugs and do something for the NHRA members in the long run but, I give them 2 thumbs up.

The nhraallaccess.com for $99 was great and a huge bargain for one year of course .The best ever coverage

Sam M · 03-21-2016, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BKSG1198

The problem was that they were only into the 2nd round of eliminations at the Gators when the Pro's ran the finals. It will be interesting when everything aligns at once and maybe they can show the actual finals.

I must say I caved in and bought the All-Access deal and you can call me what you want but, it was great. I think we've gotten so coddled by the likes of Motor Mania and Bangshift with it being free that people have that sticker shock of "Oh my God $99.00, I'm not paying that" but, in reality it's 22 National Events Live (You can go back to Pomona & Arizona if you want to watch those events) for about $1.50 a day. I had it on my computer during the day and went out to dinner at night and watched it on my Iphone and best about it, you hear the PA announcers during the Pro's and Not Tony P. telling me that Carbon Fiber is fiber made of carbon....really???. The best part about it the sportsman stuff is that is also hooked up to the PA announcers so you actually got to hear the races and find out who won and since the sportsman guys ran way later into the day after the pros they kept the live feed going. They just didn't cut it off because the "Pro's" were done for the day. I know with ESPN 3 you never had announcers and I know at a few tracks I had to look for the win light bulb in the corner to find out who won because they just panned out to the end of the track. I thought it was great, I know some people said as a member of NHRA you should get it for Free or a discounted rate but, hopefully they will work out the bugs and do something for the NHRA members in the long run but, I give them 2 thumbs up.

I agree with you on this. I too joined NHRA ACESS and I think it is well worth the $99 fee.

Dave Muller · 03-21-2016, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rboyle

I thought the bigger issues I had were poor camera angles, amateurish driver interviews, bad editing. As a fan of most motorsport shows I find Nascar has some of the best camera angles. They have cameras in the track, in the wall and it brings you right there. Drag racing can take a page from this coverage. There is NOTHING like the sound, feel and sight of a Nitro car during thr burnout and launch. Yet they almost never showed the burnout. They can have the starters view of the starting line in track at the 330 and guard wall finish line angle. The driver comments before the match weren't very interesting or entrrtaining. TV is all about entertainment and Fox/NHRA are missing entertainment vaule

I agree, and those are some of the areas where I thought ESPN did very well. But now they don't have time for burnouts in the first two rounds anyway, as they have to squeeze it in to little more than an hour.

As far as editing I thought the worst part was going from showing a car crossing the finish line and cutting instantly to the top end interview. May as well have a neon sign announcing that it's not live. ESPN at least sequenced things so it had a more natural flow.

Honestly, to me it seems like just about everything that has changed is worse. Hate to be a grumpy old man, but that's what it is.

cdh124 · 03-21-2016, 03:25 PM

I don't give a hoot about it being broadcast live because I record it and watch it later and always have. That way I can turn a 3 hour show into about 2 hours by fast forwarding through the commercials, and even shorter now if I fast forward whenever Tony is talking. ESPN was waaay better than Fox. Another round of lead inserted in the foot of the NHRA powers that really do not have a clue what people want or how to run a business.

Doug Humes

Rag71 · 03-21-2016, 03:41 PM

Not perfect but better than what we had when tsn canadian broadcast the following . lots of times would not be on . Getting lots of repeats we still tape so can watch when we are able to .Looking forward to tonites sportsman coverage .Want to see sal runnerup in stock with cook bros' beautiful mustang

Charlie A · 03-21-2016, 08:02 PM

Diamond "P" Sports.

That's all I'm sayin'.

HR9121 · 03-21-2016, 08:28 PM

I also thought the all access was well worth the $99 considering the cost of watching other pay-per-view events it is a bargain to get the whole season for this. The camera views were great and the commentators were actually pretty good, I say nice job NHRA on this one.

Pat Comstock · 03-21-2016, 08:51 PM

Well, I also gave in and bought the $99 package but I wasn't too happy with it. It was fine if you want to watch the pros but when it came time to run super stock 2nd round, I think it was, all I had on my screen was a big Gator Nationals logo so I didn't get to see Kevin's run. You could hear the announcer but couldn't see anything. Maybe they were having technical difficulties or something because it did come back on later, but as you all know, the main reason I watch is to see my son so I was disappointed that I had to miss that run after shelling out the $99. And as far as that goes, we used to get the same coverage for free with ESPN3 on certain races.

03-21-2016, 12:09 PM	#12
rboyle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 604 Likes: 1,454 Liked 586 Times in 162 Posts	Re: Fox Coverage of the Gators I thought the bigger issues I had were poor camera angles, amateurish driver interviews, bad editing. As a fan of most motorsport shows I find Nascar has some of the best camera angles. They have cameras in the track, in the wall and it brings you right there. Drag racing can take a page from this coverage. There is NOTHING like the sound, feel and sight of a Nitro car during thr burnout and launch. Yet they almost never showed the burnout. They can have the starters view of the starting line in track at the 330 and guard wall finish line angle. The driver comments before the match weren't very interesting or entrrtaining. TV is all about entertainment and Fox/NHRA are missing entertainment vaule

03-21-2016, 03:25 PM	#16
cdh124 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan Posts: 59 Likes: 224 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fox Coverage of the Gators I don't give a hoot about it being broadcast live because I record it and watch it later and always have. That way I can turn a 3 hour show into about 2 hours by fast forwarding through the commercials, and even shorter now if I fast forward whenever Tony is talking. ESPN was waaay better than Fox. Another round of lead inserted in the foot of the NHRA powers that really do not have a clue what people want or how to run a business. Doug Humes

03-21-2016, 03:41 PM	#17
Rag71 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 46 Likes: 9 Liked 9 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Fox Coverage of the Gators Not perfect but better than what we had when tsn canadian broadcast the following . lots of times would not be on . Getting lots of repeats we still tape so can watch when we are able to .Looking forward to tonites sportsman coverage .Want to see sal runnerup in stock with cook bros' beautiful mustang

03-21-2016, 08:02 PM	#18
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Fox Coverage of the Gators Diamond "P" Sports. That's all I'm sayin'.

03-21-2016, 08:28 PM	#19
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: Fox Coverage of the Gators I also thought the all access was well worth the $99 considering the cost of watching other pay-per-view events it is a bargain to get the whole season for this. The camera views were great and the commentators were actually pretty good, I say nice job NHRA on this one. __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

03-21-2016, 08:51 PM	#20
Pat Comstock Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Plant City, FL Posts: 305 Likes: 29 Liked 19 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Fox Coverage of the Gators Well, I also gave in and bought the $99 package but I wasn't too happy with it. It was fine if you want to watch the pros but when it came time to run super stock 2nd round, I think it was, all I had on my screen was a big Gator Nationals logo so I didn't get to see Kevin's run. You could hear the announcer but couldn't see anything. Maybe they were having technical difficulties or something because it did come back on later, but as you all know, the main reason I watch is to see my son so I was disappointed that I had to miss that run after shelling out the $99. And as far as that goes, we used to get the same coverage for free with ESPN3 on certain races.