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Old 02-25-2016, 02:00 PM   #1
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All Ford has ever built were blower cars, the N/A engine cars were paper cars you couldn't even buy just the engines from Ford they were DIY engines. They way to get ready in 3 weeks is just write a BIG CHECK. IN THIS DEAL THERE WILL ALWAYS RACERS WITH PMS!



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I,as Jeff mentioned in his post above cannot understand the logic of this change. How do you change the rules 3 weeks before the first race? Yes, I understand that we can still try and qualify for the quick 8, but in reality what chance does an NA car have against a blower car, heads up??


You guys know from the past how NHRA does things. If you don't like it it easy just don't support them.



I don't know about Ford or Dodge but it is my understanding that Chevrolet sells more NA cars than blower cars, so why would the NA cars be made uncompetitive in a series that they were created for?? One would think the the NHRA would want both NA and blower cars showcased!

In conversation with Brian M. he was not aware of this rule change until after the contract was signed, and as Jeff mentioned Brian does not have a competive combination, at this time,to run in the series that he is sponsoring, since he runs an NA car? How does one convert from an NA to a blower combination, plus the chassis upgrade required in 3 weeks, 3 months or even a year if they choose to do so??

I also do not agree with Jesse but understand his position and needing to be politically correct.

As David mentioned, if it does not include both NA and blower cars it would be stupid!

Now I know what the Pro Stock Truck guys felt like, spend a pile of money then have the program, as it was stated, changed in the middle of the game.

Sorry for the rant but had to make my feelings known!!😡😡

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Old 02-25-2016, 04:18 PM   #2
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Thank You for the info on the Ford combinations, but REALLY, is writing a BIG check the answer? How about this for a novel approach, FAIRNESS, CONSISTANCY, and some LONGEVITY in a currently stated rules package!

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Old 02-25-2016, 06:23 PM   #3
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Thanks NHRA and SAM you'll just saved me a bunch of work and a few dollars! First the 392 and now this.
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Old 02-25-2016, 07:05 PM   #4
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All Ford has ever built were blower cars, the N/A engine cars were paper cars you couldn't even buy just the engines from Ford they were DIY engines. They way to get ready in 3 weeks is just write a BIG CHECK. IN THIS DEAL THERE WILL ALWAYS RACERS WITH PMS!
Get your facts straight.

In 2010 Ford built 4 complete NA Cobrajets; 428 - Brian Wolfe, 428 - Gary Richard, 352 - Chris Holbrook and 4.6 3v - Gary Summers.

In 2013 Ford built a small number of complete 5.0 L NA Cobrajets. Randy Payne's Cobrajet (raced by Jeff Harrington) is one that comes to mind.

Ford Racing has also sold complete NA engines. Below is a photo of the COMPLETE 5.0 L N/A motor that Jimmy and I installed in Randy Hopkin's 2013 CobraJet. This engine was purchased COMPLETE from Ford and was delivered by Varsity Ford.

Yes. Ford has some "paper only" N/A combinations in the guide, but they are not alone in doing that.
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Old 02-26-2016, 12:27 PM   #5
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Well I don't have a dog in this fight. But I agree with the last line of Barton's post. I also agree there is other ways, besides weight to slow the blower cars down. It works out to about .15 per .250" up top and a little less than that on the bottom.

But as I have said to many people, many times....bitch all you want about it, but you will still be at the race.
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Old 02-27-2016, 10:14 AM   #6
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X2. But as I have said to many people, many times....bitch all you want about it, but you will still be at the race.
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