TruSTART looks to level the playing field. - Page 18

Bob Mulry · 02-22-2016, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

''Trustart will be a good bracket aid, it has no place in NHRA Championship Racing.'' post #114

With trustart the racer has one more chance to get to the next round, that's why it will sell more tech cards.

I am a class racer I love to run heads up, with anybody in the class. 427fe, 427 chevy, ls1, hemis, lt1, 396 chevy, 413MW, 426MW,' vets, and the rest.

Hope you folks made some money in Vegas.

But Larry when you buy the Tech Card you don't know if you will be leaving first or last......

Same-o same-o.....

Sometimes I chase and sometime I am chased....

As far as being a Heads-Up class racer TruStart doesn't come into play..

In a heads-up the first red light is always the worst red light...

Bob

Ed Wright · 02-22-2016, 11:25 PM

The higher class guys just don't want to lose the freebe rounds they have gotten used to. Percentages mean nothing also. I like it when a slower car goes red against me too. Doesn't make it more fair than the worst red light.

Jeff Stout · 02-22-2016, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

''Trustart will be a good bracket aid, it has no place in NHRA Championship Racing.'' post #114

With trustart the racer has one more chance to get to the next round, that's why it will sell more tech cards.

I am a class racer I love to run heads up, with anybody in the class. 427fe, 427 chevy, ls1, hemis, lt1, 396 chevy, 413MW, 426MW,' vets, and the rest.

Hope you folks made some money in Vegas.

Larry you stated that you love heads up racing. When you do race a heads up and both redlight do you except the worst redlight as the loser whether its you or your competition? If yes then your first statement about worst red light has no place for NHRA Championship racing contradicts your action in a heads up scenario.

Adger Smith · 02-23-2016, 01:35 AM

I think it would be a lot more fair if it was done like we did a long, long time ago. You had a pre stage and a stage. One yellow and a green. Yellow is .5 from the green. Throw those stinking reaction timers away, too. That is right, run races without them. Then use the "new" first or worst system. Peter, That should be a system you could figure out something to sell for driving aids.

Dave Noll · 02-23-2016, 02:12 AM

I REALLY dont get why you fast guys are upset about leveling this out. What is unfair about a slow car with an -.02 light winning against a fast car with an -.025 light ? Is that its been the old way so long that you feel an advantage is being stolen from you ? Is it because your the FAST cars ? I'm asking, OK ?? I know its been that way a long time. I kinda like reaction timers myself.

Mile High · 02-23-2016, 07:50 AM

I don't understand why it is so wrong to some that both drivers have to cut a light to make it a race? Instead of the race being over when the first driver red lights. I guess it is suppose to be a perk for building a fast car. Not everyone can afford to be a fast car. This change is looooong over due.

Jeff

Larry Hill · 02-23-2016, 09:46 AM

Does NHRA use Crosstalk when its runs top dragster and top sportsman?

Brad Plourd · 02-23-2016, 10:25 AM

Yes they do Larry.

Larry Hill · 02-23-2016, 10:58 AM

It may happen sooner than later.

Bruce Noland · 02-23-2016, 11:35 AM

Biondo+Compulink+Electronics= Money. I applaud their ingenuity. TruStart is simply a new product launch and it has all the lower class car racers thinking it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. But the bottom line it is all about business, that is, making money. Again, I applaud making money. But, please don't think this was done out of the kindness of somebody's heart. It will likely stifle their competitors which is the all American way of doing business.

The slow car racers should have to give a 5 or 6 second spot to feel the experience on an A car sitting at the line. Billy had some line about "waiting is the hardest part" on the back of his car. So you know...don't you Billy? Just so none of us are under any illusion, this Trustart product is red light protection while the faster cars have to wait to chase them down. I suppose that's fair to them.

For the record, this is an old debate and I did not want it changed when I ran J-N. With all the new cars at the track, an A/SA car will be leaving first more often than in the past. Yes, an A car will still leave last in most cases but try to figure out a fair compromise to this wonderful red light protection.

02-22-2016, 11:25 PM	#172
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. The higher class guys just don't want to lose the freebe rounds they have gotten used to. Percentages mean nothing also. I like it when a slower car goes red against me too. Doesn't make it more fair than the worst red light. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 02-23-2016 at 10:33 AM.

02-23-2016, 01:35 AM	#174
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. I think it would be a lot more fair if it was done like we did a long, long time ago. You had a pre stage and a stage. One yellow and a green. Yellow is .5 from the green. Throw those stinking reaction timers away, too. That is right, run races without them. Then use the "new" first or worst system. Peter, That should be a system you could figure out something to sell for driving aids. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 02-23-2016 at 01:36 AM. Reason: sp

02-23-2016, 02:12 AM	#175
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 710 Likes: 2,674 Liked 240 Times in 112 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. I REALLY dont get why you fast guys are upset about leveling this out. What is unfair about a slow car with an -.02 light winning against a fast car with an -.025 light ? Is that its been the old way so long that you feel an advantage is being stolen from you ? Is it because your the FAST cars ? I'm asking, OK ?? I know its been that way a long time. I kinda like reaction timers myself. __________________ Dave Noll, EF/S ,?/SA 6526

02-23-2016, 07:50 AM	#176
Mile High Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: My RV Posts: 218 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. I don't understand why it is so wrong to some that both drivers have to cut a light to make it a race? Instead of the race being over when the first driver red lights. I guess it is suppose to be a perk for building a fast car. Not everyone can afford to be a fast car. This change is looooong over due. Jeff __________________ Street legal 64 Falcon Sprint with 410W living in Texas. Stock - Super Stock fan

02-23-2016, 09:46 AM	#177
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,647 Likes: 1,941 Liked 10,753 Times in 2,236 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. Does NHRA use Crosstalk when its runs top dragster and top sportsman? __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

02-23-2016, 10:25 AM	#178
Brad Plourd Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 196 Likes: 39 Liked 67 Times in 20 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. Yes they do Larry.

02-23-2016, 10:58 AM	#179
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,647 Likes: 1,941 Liked 10,753 Times in 2,236 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. It may happen sooner than later. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817 Last edited by Larry Hill; 02-23-2016 at 11:22 AM.

02-23-2016, 11:35 AM	#180
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. Biondo+Compulink+Electronics= Money. I applaud their ingenuity. TruStart is simply a new product launch and it has all the lower class car racers thinking it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. But the bottom line it is all about business, that is, making money. Again, I applaud making money. But, please don't think this was done out of the kindness of somebody's heart. It will likely stifle their competitors which is the all American way of doing business. The slow car racers should have to give a 5 or 6 second spot to feel the experience on an A car sitting at the line. Billy had some line about "waiting is the hardest part" on the back of his car. So you know...don't you Billy? Just so none of us are under any illusion, this Trustart product is red light protection while the faster cars have to wait to chase them down. I suppose that's fair to them. For the record, this is an old debate and I did not want it changed when I ran J-N. With all the new cars at the track, an A/SA car will be leaving first more often than in the past. Yes, an A car will still leave last in most cases but try to figure out a fair compromise to this wonderful red light protection. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK