TruSTART looks to level the playing field.

[Mike Keener]

I totally agree with both points you made in your post. In fact I just took severe heat in the roller lifter issue in stock thread and was practically blamed for all of the parts that became approved along the way for the 396/375- as if 401 head aluminum head, roller rockers, unlimited cam duration, any valve spring configuration, etc., were issues that I had something to do with- when I had absolutely nothing to do with any of it.

Like you I just use the parts allowed by the rules and have never given or been asked by anyone at NHRA for my opinion. They make the rules and he rest of us follow them. Now back to the thread.

True start may have a place in bracket racing but NHRA Stock and SS Eliminators is not the venue for it in my opinion.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Mike Keener

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True start may have a place in bracket racing but NHRA Stock and SS Eliminators is not the venue for it in my opinion.

Trustart will be a good bracket aid, it has no place in NHRA Championship Racing.

MK. Larry Hill,
Please explain your reasoning on this issue.

[Larry Hill]

It was the same drive line @ the 40th also. I believe I hold an advantage in the truck with clean tree and the sound it makes on the line is just short of annoying. The spot is big enough that lots of times the truck is the background for the tree when the lights come down for the faster car. Its a little hard to dial in the wind. If I red light first I have four chances to win, them crossing the center line or hitting the wall, them being lite at the scales when the racer drains to much water out of the cooling system A.K.A. "the D-6 trick", or failing fuel check. If all that fails to get me to the next round I lost. That how the game is played and I know the rules, I think.


I like to practice at the bracket tracks them boys always teach me hard lessons.

[MR DERBY CITY]

But what about those D6 Diving Trunks ??

[goinbroke2]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

It was the same drive line @ the 40th also. I believe I hold an advantage in the truck with clean tree and the sound it makes on the line is just short of annoying. The spot is big enough that lots of times the truck is the background for the tree when the lights come down for the faster car. Its a little hard to dial in the wind. If I red light first I have four chances to win, them crossing the center line or hitting the wall, them being lite at the scales when the racer drains to much water out of the cooling system A.K.A. "the D-6 trick", or failing fuel check. If all that fails to get me to the next round I lost. That how the game is played and I know the rules, I think.


I like to practice at the bracket tracks them boys always teach me hard lessons.

Sorry Larry but the four chances you have to lose have nothing to do with a faster or slower car or if this is changed. Anybody can cross the line/hit the wall/be light/fail fuel. That's a straw man argument the same as comparing to a heads up class.

Either you have heads up racing or you have handicap racing. If you have handicap racing then the inherent differences in vehicles (one will travel faster/quicker than the other, one will have a bigger chance of spinning, etc, etc) is stuff that is inherent and can't be changed. Stuff that should be equal for all cars is they must pass fuel/must weigh correct/either hits the wall they are out/either crosses the line they are out/Worst breakout between the cars loses/worst red light between the cars loses.

Slow guys complaining that faster cars see the stripe better or fast guys saying slow guys get a clean tree are inherent in the fact that one car is leaving before the other, it is not changeable. But first red light or first break out, first to fail fuel (ooh, you pulled ahead of me and we both failed fuel but since you checked first I win????) these things are not right.

Bracket or whatever, this should of been changed years ago. (imho)

[Larry Hill]

MJ you missed the diving trunks, they were a boys size 7.

Class racing is heads-up, the elimination part of it is kind of a filler but its still fun. If I go red I loose its how its played. If its not your cup of tea, try something else.

Tell Fred happy birthday for me.

[goinbroke2]

But since there IS the "elimination part".........it should be fair to all.

[Jeff Stout]

Here's a question. When any of you guys or gals race in a heads up round (car in the same class as you) and both red light do you allow the worst red light to be the loser? I already know what the answer is but wondering why worst light is a excepted way of winning. As some of you guys say It's a performance based class and red lights should be disallowed by your thought process. It's ok to win in a heads up by worst red light but not wanted when using shoe polish. Sounds like some of you get your cake and eat it to

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

Here's a question. When any of you guys or gals race in a heads up round (car in the same class as you) and both red light do you allow the worst red light to be the loser? I already know what the answer is but wondering why worst light is a excepted way of winning. As some of you guys say It's a performance based class and red lights should be disallowed by your thought process. It's ok to win in a heads up by worst red light but not wanted when using shoe polish. Sounds like some of you get your cake and eat it to

Good point but technically worst in this case would also be the first redlight.

[Pvt Parts]

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

Here's a question. When any of you guys or gals race in a heads up round (car in the same class as you) and both red light do you allow the worst red light to be the loser? I already know what the answer is but wondering why worst light is a excepted way of winning. As some of you guys say It's a performance based class and red lights should be disallowed by your thought process. It's ok to win in a heads up by worst red light but not wanted when using shoe polish. Sounds like some of you get your cake and eat it to

Agreed!! Crybabies who knew the rules when they signed on but now want them changed. Grow up, man up and go to work. If you don't like where you are, build a car in a class with a better advantage.