TruSTART looks to level the playing field.

[goinbroke2]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

It was the same drive line @ the 40th also. I believe I hold an advantage in the truck with clean tree and the sound it makes on the line is just short of annoying. The spot is big enough that lots of times the truck is the background for the tree when the lights come down for the faster car. Its a little hard to dial in the wind. If I red light first I have four chances to win, them crossing the center line or hitting the wall, them being lite at the scales when the racer drains to much water out of the cooling system A.K.A. "the D-6 trick", or failing fuel check. If all that fails to get me to the next round I lost. That how the game is played and I know the rules, I think.


I like to practice at the bracket tracks them boys always teach me hard lessons.

Sorry Larry but the four chances you have to lose have nothing to do with a faster or slower car or if this is changed. Anybody can cross the line/hit the wall/be light/fail fuel. That's a straw man argument the same as comparing to a heads up class.

Either you have heads up racing or you have handicap racing. If you have handicap racing then the inherent differences in vehicles (one will travel faster/quicker than the other, one will have a bigger chance of spinning, etc, etc) is stuff that is inherent and can't be changed. Stuff that should be equal for all cars is they must pass fuel/must weigh correct/either hits the wall they are out/either crosses the line they are out/Worst breakout between the cars loses/worst red light between the cars loses.

Slow guys complaining that faster cars see the stripe better or fast guys saying slow guys get a clean tree are inherent in the fact that one car is leaving before the other, it is not changeable. But first red light or first break out, first to fail fuel (ooh, you pulled ahead of me and we both failed fuel but since you checked first I win????) these things are not right.

Bracket or whatever, this should of been changed years ago. (imho)

[Larry Hill]

MJ you missed the diving trunks, they were a boys size 7.

Class racing is heads-up, the elimination part of it is kind of a filler but its still fun. If I go red I loose its how its played. If its not your cup of tea, try something else.

Tell Fred happy birthday for me.

[Pvt Parts]

Originally Posted by Mike Keener

I totally agree with both points you made in your post. In fact I just took severe heat in the roller lifter issue in stock thread and was practically blamed for all of the parts that became approved along the way for the 396/375- as if 401 head aluminum head, roller rockers, unlimited cam duration, any valve spring configuration, etc., were issues that I had something to do with- when I had absolutely nothing to do with any of it.

Like you I just use the parts allowed by the rules and have never given or been asked by anyone at NHRA for my opinion. They make the rules and he rest of us follow them. Now back to the thread.

True start may have a place in bracket racing but NHRA Stock and SS Eliminators is not the venue for it in my opinion.

I doubt that you are ever going to see it implemented in Stock, Super Stock or Comp. NHRA is driven by sponsors and money. Chrysler, GM and Ford want their fast cars at the top with every advantage to win. Money talks, it ain't gonna happen. Look at NHRA, their past relationship with Chrysler and the Hemi cars. Enough said.

[Larry Hill]

''Trustart will be a good bracket aid, it has no place in NHRA Championship Racing.'' post #114

With trustart the racer has one more chance to get to the next round, that's why it will sell more tech cards.

I am a class racer I love to run heads up, with anybody in the class. 427fe, 427 chevy, ls1, hemis, lt1, 396 chevy, 413MW, 426MW,' vets, and the rest.

Hope you folks made some money in Vegas.

[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

''Trustart will be a good bracket aid, it has no place in NHRA Championship Racing.'' post #114

With trustart the racer has one more chance to get to the next round, that's why it will sell more tech cards.

I am a class racer I love to run heads up, with anybody in the class. 427fe, 427 chevy, ls1, hemis, lt1, 396 chevy, 413MW, 426MW,' vets, and the rest.

Hope you folks made some money in Vegas.

But Larry when you buy the Tech Card you don't know if you will be leaving first or last......

Same-o same-o.....

Sometimes I chase and sometime I am chased....

As far as being a Heads-Up class racer TruStart doesn't come into play..

In a heads-up the first red light is always the worst red light...

Bob

[Ed Wright]

The higher class guys just don't want to lose the freebe rounds they have gotten used to. Percentages mean nothing also. I like it when a slower car goes red against me too. Doesn't make it more fair than the worst red light.

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

''Trustart will be a good bracket aid, it has no place in NHRA Championship Racing.'' post #114

With trustart the racer has one more chance to get to the next round, that's why it will sell more tech cards.

I am a class racer I love to run heads up, with anybody in the class. 427fe, 427 chevy, ls1, hemis, lt1, 396 chevy, 413MW, 426MW,' vets, and the rest.

Hope you folks made some money in Vegas.

Larry you stated that you love heads up racing. When you do race a heads up and both redlight do you except the worst redlight as the loser whether its you or your competition? If yes then your first statement about worst red light has no place for NHRA Championship racing contradicts your action in a heads up scenario.

[Adger Smith]

I think it would be a lot more fair if it was done like we did a long, long time ago. You had a pre stage and a stage. One yellow and a green. Yellow is .5 from the green. Throw those stinking reaction timers away, too. That is right, run races without them. Then use the "new" first or worst system. Peter, That should be a system you could figure out something to sell for driving aids.

[Dave Noll]

I REALLY dont get why you fast guys are upset about leveling this out. What is unfair about a slow car with an -.02 light winning against a fast car with an -.025 light ? Is that its been the old way so long that you feel an advantage is being stolen from you ? Is it because your the FAST cars ? I'm asking, OK ?? I know its been that way a long time. I kinda like reaction timers myself.

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

Larry you stated that you love heads up racing. When you do race a heads up and both redlight do you except the worst redlight as the loser whether its you or your competition? If yes then your first statement about worst red light has no place for NHRA Championship racing contradicts your action in a heads up scenario.

If your racing heads up the first red light is always the worst red light.