Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? - Page 2

MR DERBY CITY · 06-28-2016, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cwhitney

i have a question about aa/s and aa/sa since they both have the same index. If both cars met up in any round would they race heads up? Just curious.

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Jeff Teuton · 06-29-2016, 12:38 PM

So it's 10.70 now. That is quick service.

HR9121 · 02-06-2016, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Carr

Yes, I forgot K and L were close together. The rest are all .15 apart. I don't know why K and L are so close.

2 tenths between J and K also. 12.45 to 12.65

Larry Hill · 02-07-2016, 09:34 AM

AA/S and AA/SA my car does not fit anymore, so I don't and should not have a say!

Jim Bailey · 02-07-2016, 01:56 PM

Larry, I guess that gives me a little say! (laughing) Here's the key :

Who is willing to give up 0.40 seconds for 200 lbs.?????? Raise your hand !!!!

10.60 index is tuff if you race a lot... I made a lot of runs last year, in a lot of different weather conditions. If you only run Gainesville, Englishtown, Atco, Reading, Sonoma, Pomona, and other mineshaft venues, it's nice to run your car all out and not have to worry about an HP hit. However, if you wanna travel a little and race a lot, it's a tuff index. You're gonna have trouble at places like Indy and now the Sportsnations with qualified 128 car fields and 200 entries.

The index should be 10.75 or at the very least 10.70. To "protect" our combo, sometimes we might have to run our cars like normal stocker racers, but, for the most part it would be much better and a much leveler playing field.

Taking a little hp off won't help. We'd just drop into A/SA, that would cause some ****.

The fair and correct thing for NHRA to do is adjust the AA/S and AA/SA index.

It doesn't matter to me ... I'm gonna race -

Mike Delahanty · 02-07-2016, 02:04 PM

I ran AA/SA all last year - ran CC/SA the year before. I don't think it hurt my racing program one bit - but I didn't go to Indy.

I'm just fine with the 10.60 index.

Jim Bailey · 02-07-2016, 02:10 PM

And you ran how many NHRA National Events in the last two years Mike ?

Jim Bailey · 02-07-2016, 02:55 PM

Another consideration for NHRA (and AA/ stock racers) would be that a more favorable index might attract more cars to the class. Many of the fast A cars might take some weight out and come play. This would increase competition (chances for heads up races),and an interest in the fastest stock class. (As Races we forget that we are a performance based class.) An increase in the Class Car count would help a lot.

My final thought is - looking down the road : With the addition of the "New" cars to traditional Stock Eliminator, ( Like Jeff's beautiful Pink Drag Pac Showroom Challenger ), it's only a matter of time before some legal showroom street engine combos will be approved, or AHFS will move these cars into A - and AA stock. A reasonable index for AA will help bring HP factors for these cars into line much faster, and will delay the "OLD" musclecars demise into NSS.

holben · 06-13-2016, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Carr

Yes, I forgot K and L were close together. The rest are all .15 apart. I don't know why K and L are so close.

K and L have been like that for years and there has never been a reasonable explanation for the disparity. We tried to get it changed as far back as 1983 but no dice.

Tom P · 06-15-2016, 04:08 PM

Wouldn't this ADR Challenger be in a Factory Stock class?

06-29-2016, 12:38 PM	#2
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? So it's 10.70 now. That is quick service. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

02-07-2016, 09:34 AM	#4
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,648 Likes: 1,941 Liked 10,758 Times in 2,236 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? AA/S and AA/SA my car does not fit anymore, so I don't and should not have a say! __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

02-07-2016, 01:56 PM	#5
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? Larry, I guess that gives me a little say! (laughing) Here's the key : Who is willing to give up 0.40 seconds for 200 lbs.?????? Raise your hand !!!! 10.60 index is tuff if you race a lot... I made a lot of runs last year, in a lot of different weather conditions. If you only run Gainesville, Englishtown, Atco, Reading, Sonoma, Pomona, and other mineshaft venues, it's nice to run your car all out and not have to worry about an HP hit. However, if you wanna travel a little and race a lot, it's a tuff index. You're gonna have trouble at places like Indy and now the Sportsnations with qualified 128 car fields and 200 entries. The index should be 10.75 or at the very least 10.70. To "protect" our combo, sometimes we might have to run our cars like normal stocker racers, but, for the most part it would be much better and a much leveler playing field. Taking a little hp off won't help. We'd just drop into A/SA, that would cause some ***. The fair and correct thing for NHRA to do is adjust the AA/S and AA/SA index. It doesn't matter to me ... I'm gonna race - Last edited by Jim Bailey; 02-07-2016 at 01:57 PM. Reason: spelling error*

02-07-2016, 02:04 PM	#6
Mike Delahanty VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,201 Likes: 0 Liked 276 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? I ran AA/SA all last year - ran CC/SA the year before. I don't think it hurt my racing program one bit - but I didn't go to Indy. I'm just fine with the 10.60 index. __________________ Been racing Stock and S/S cars since 1973.

02-07-2016, 02:10 PM	#7
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? And you ran how many NHRA National Events in the last two years Mike ?

02-07-2016, 02:55 PM	#8
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? Another consideration for NHRA (and AA/ stock racers) would be that a more favorable index might attract more cars to the class. Many of the fast A cars might take some weight out and come play. This would increase competition (chances for heads up races),and an interest in the fastest stock class. (As Races we forget that we are a performance based class.) An increase in the Class Car count would help a lot. My final thought is - looking down the road : With the addition of the "New" cars to traditional Stock Eliminator, ( Like Jeff's beautiful Pink Drag Pac Showroom Challenger ), it's only a matter of time before some legal showroom street engine combos will be approved, or AHFS will move these cars into A - and AA stock. A reasonable index for AA will help bring HP factors for these cars into line much faster, and will delay the "OLD" musclecars demise into NSS.

06-15-2016, 04:08 PM	#10
Tom P Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 707 Likes: 30 Liked 239 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index? Wouldn't this ADR Challenger be in a Factory Stock class?