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Old 01-27-2016, 06:18 PM   #1
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Looks to me some racers are making a case for taking the rules backwards and others are for moving forward toward overall engine safety. The point we can all agree on is everybody understands and accepts the problem but have differing viewpoints on how to correct them.

Maybe it's just me but my belief is once you start down a path you must be prepared to reach the end as long as the overall spirit of the rules are never compromised. Opening the duration rule, no limit on valve spring pressures, roller rockers, wild valve jobs, aftermarket oil pans, etc have been good things, and in my opinion, have keep Stock Eliminator from getting rather boring. Does anyone really want to see and A/S car slow down a half second or more?

Another issue is Tear Down. Does anyone really believe the tech department wants to increase the time it takes to check camshaft duration, valve spring pressures, etc? I would doubt that very seriously.

For what it's worth my 2 cents is the path forward is a far cheaper fix for the current camshaft/lifter mess and therefore rates superior to turning around and heading backwards with the rules. Retreating with the rules would be far more expensive not to mention it would be a waste of valuable time for us- as well as the tech officials.
You guys are killing me....You all knew the RULES when you signed up for STOCK Eliminator. Put your AGENDAS aside and Please REFRAIN from changing the RULES. Geez. ,!! PS...I did not want or need ceramic lifters, excessive valve spring pressure , roller rockers , or any other parts that don't belong n STOCK. Eliminator
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Old 01-27-2016, 07:22 PM   #2
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You guys are killing me....You all knew the RULES when you signed up for STOCK Eliminator. Put your AGENDAS aside and Please REFRAIN from changing the RULES. Geez. ,!! PS...I did not want or need ceramic lifters, excessive valve spring pressure , roller rockers , or any other parts that don't belong n STOCK. Eliminator
amen to that and it's not like roller lifters don't break had a few of them break wasn't pretty
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Old 01-27-2016, 11:56 PM   #3
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You guys are killing me....You all knew the RULES when you signed up for STOCK Eliminator. Put your AGENDAS aside and Please REFRAIN from changing the RULES. Geez. ,!! PS...I did not want or need ceramic lifters, excessive valve spring pressure , roller rockers , or any other parts that don't belong n STOCK. Eliminator
Do not dismiss the conversations.
It is a good one with different POV with mutual consensus.
As for the knowing the Rules, they change often.
Yeah the trick is to moderate Spring pressure and still go fast.
Figure putting a little Stock back into Stock is a good idea.
In the 70s a M/SA car ran 13.30's, 80s 12.50 and today 11.80.

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Old 01-28-2016, 02:24 AM   #4
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Do not dismiss the conversations.
It is a good one with different POV with mutual consensus.
As for the knowing the Rules, they change often.
Yeah the trick is to moderate Spring pressure and still go fast.
Figure putting a little Stock back into Stock is a good idea.
In the 70s a M/SA car ran 13.30's, 80s 12.50 and today 11.80.

Good night all
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and pro stock in the 70's ran in the 8's, 80s the 7's and today 6.50's now they have a rev limit, wait till you see the spring bill the teams will spend for this year...I don't think its possible to turn back the hands of time
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and pro stock in the 70's ran in the 8's, 80s the 7's and today 6.50's now they have a rev limit, wait till you see the spring bill the teams will spend for this year...I don't think its possible to turn back the hands of time
Well ProStock and NASCAR are limiting RPM.
Top Fuel and FC are running 1000ft.
Pure Stock is a Solution too!
They are work-arounds.
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