Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races

Len Imbrogno · 11-27-2007, 04:01 PM

Despite Mr. Noland's usual misguided assumptions, this issue has not yet been decided, nor do I support it.
While there have been a large number of racers over the last several years who have asked for division event to be included in the AHFS, there does not appear to be a majority of racers who want this to happen.
Therefore, as Leo correctly stated, we would like to hear from S/SS racers on this issue

Bruce Witherspoon · 11-27-2007, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Len Imbrogno

Despite Mr. Noland's usual misguided assumptions, this issue has not yet been decided, nor do I support it.
While there have been a large number of racers over the last several years who have asked for division event to be included in the AHFS, there does not appear to be a majority of racers who want this to happen.
Therefore, as Leo correctly stated, we would like to hear from S/SS racers on this issue

Len is the 1.15 under with or without the proposed index change in either case?

Len Imbrogno · 11-27-2007, 04:21 PM

Bruce,
The majority vote was to maintain the 1.15 under and for no .20 index adjustments for 2008.

Dick Butler · 11-27-2007, 04:23 PM

Okay I will ask the obvious question.
If AHFS is designed to help correct poor initial factoring and bring the outlying combinations back to where more combinations are closer to being competitive why would people be complaining. Is it they are the ones with the soft combinations?
In a class where one car combination is running like SS/AH it makes less concern but if you are in a class with a bogus combination to run against to win a trophy, it becomes depressing real quick....except in the bracket part of the racing.

DustyLowell · 11-27-2007, 04:29 PM

Soft combo's love to bitch

Bryan Worner · 11-27-2007, 05:08 PM

I vote for having AHFS at divisionals! Len, I'm sure you'll get a lot more support for this than you think!!

Tony Janes · 11-27-2007, 05:29 PM

I vote no for AHFS at divisional

Bruce Noland · 11-27-2007, 05:53 PM

Len, a well known engine builder says you that you told him you were going to post the 1.15 under at opens and divisionals information this week except Wesley told a few people and now you are accepting emails about the subject. True or false?

The AHFS is full of changes that were never given advance notice or publication and with a record like that you have the nerve to come out here and run me down for misguided assumptions. You better wipe that fog from the mirror.

Sounds like you aren't too happy about us getting the word out.

Len Imbrogno · 11-27-2007, 06:02 PM

False.

Any possible changes that could or would happen to the AHFS will be put up on the NHRA website, for review by all racers, before a final decision is made to implement any such changes.

Bruce Noland · 11-27-2007, 06:17 PM

Len,

You say you never told an engine builder that you were going to make the -1.15 change??? So why are you now accepting emails on a subject that the majority of the racers are not in favor of? Why bring the subject up after it had already been decided by the racers???? Your words.

And please tell me how we got all those changes in the AHFS when nobody else on the planet has seen them published in advance on any nhra site?

Dusty, did you say something about soft combinations? I believe you ran -1.40 this year in Jr. Stock. And that by the way is where most of the fast cars will go at Opens if these guys pull this off.

11-27-2007, 04:01 PM	#1
Len Imbrogno Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 40 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Despite Mr. Noland's usual misguided assumptions, this issue has not yet been decided, nor do I support it. While there have been a large number of racers over the last several years who have asked for division event to be included in the AHFS, there does not appear to be a majority of racers who want this to happen. Therefore, as Leo correctly stated, we would like to hear from S/SS racers on this issue __________________ Len Imbrogno Last edited by Len Imbrogno; 11-27-2007 at 04:06 PM.

11-27-2007, 04:21 PM	#3
Len Imbrogno Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 40 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Bruce, The majority vote was to maintain the 1.15 under and for no .20 index adjustments for 2008. __________________ Len Imbrogno

11-27-2007, 04:23 PM	#4
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Okay I will ask the obvious question. If AHFS is designed to help correct poor initial factoring and bring the outlying combinations back to where more combinations are closer to being competitive why would people be complaining. Is it they are the ones with the soft combinations? In a class where one car combination is running like SS/AH it makes less concern but if you are in a class with a bogus combination to run against to win a trophy, it becomes depressing real quick....except in the bracket part of the racing.

11-27-2007, 04:29 PM	#5
DustyLowell Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 26 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Soft combo's love to bitch __________________ Dusty Lowell 1773 F/SA

11-27-2007, 05:08 PM	#6
Bryan Worner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 823 Likes: 133 Liked 525 Times in 84 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races I vote for having AHFS at divisionals! Len, I'm sure you'll get a lot more support for this than you think!!

11-27-2007, 05:29 PM	#7
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races I vote no for AHFS at divisional __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS

11-27-2007, 05:53 PM	#8
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Len, a well known engine builder says you that you told him you were going to post the 1.15 under at opens and divisionals information this week except Wesley told a few people and now you are accepting emails about the subject. True or false? The AHFS is full of changes that were never given advance notice or publication and with a record like that you have the nerve to come out here and run me down for misguided assumptions. You better wipe that fog from the mirror. Sounds like you aren't too happy about us getting the word out. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

11-27-2007, 06:02 PM	#9
Len Imbrogno Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 40 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races False. Any possible changes that could or would happen to the AHFS will be put up on the NHRA website, for review by all racers, before a final decision is made to implement any such changes. __________________ Len Imbrogno

11-27-2007, 06:17 PM	#10
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Len, You say you never told an engine builder that you were going to make the -1.15 change??? So why are you now accepting emails on a subject that the majority of the racers are not in favor of? Why bring the subject up after it had already been decided by the racers???? Your words. And please tell me how we got all those changes in the AHFS when nobody else on the planet has seen them published in advance on any nhra site? Dusty, did you say something about soft combinations? I believe you ran -1.40 this year in Jr. Stock. And that by the way is where most of the fast cars will go at Opens if these guys pull this off. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK Last edited by Bruce Noland; 11-27-2007 at 06:23 PM.