New S/SS NHRA Horsepower Adjustments

[Eric Cabral]

I understand I helped by going over a sec under. But I was smart enough to not set the trigger. With the air at the reading race I easily could have been in the 11's but added weight and backed it down to stay below. I was 100 pounds heavy and shortshifted to stay safe.It just drives me crazy to see this happen from someone else. I want to know where the two triggers were because that is what it takes, correct? If I was a B or H car etc it happens. A lot of heads ups there. Not in a class w/six of us where there is no need now, but will be w/FI cars coming over.Just venting Time to go back to making more hp I guess.
Eric
I know Keith I suppose I shouldn't complain about 3 hp but you know where I'm coming from.I love the analogy!!!!!

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by Eric Cabral

I understand I helped by going over a sec under. But I was smart enough to not set the trigger. With the air at the reading race I easily could have been in the 11's but added weight and backed it down to stay below. I was 100 pounds heavy and shortshifted to stay safe.It just drives me crazy to see this happen from someone else.!!

1.11 under like that..you should be just fine..

[James Perrone]

Eric i think the reason your combo was hit was because there are not alot of cars running this combo.You being carefull was the right thing.Like you said ther are so many B thru H cars running it keeps the average down in these classes . Also it dosn't help your a REDSOX FAN,,The only thing saving DONNIE is he has the right car and combo ..I believe Brain Cashman made acall on behalf of you and BILLY.to slow down you DAM REDSOX!!

[Chris1529]

At the very least, the 83 and 84 cars should not be rated the same as the 85.
The 85 had a roller cam where as the previous two years did not. If NHRA would allow this combo to run as an automatic, I would run my car in L/SA. I tried to run it with the factory CFI for a few years with no success. That is why I decided to put a crate motor in it.

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by Chris1529

At the very least, the 83 and 84 cars should not be rated the same as the 85.
The 85 had a roller cam where as the previous two years did not. If NHRA would allow this combo to run as an automatic, I would run my car in L/SA. I tried to run it with the factory CFI for a few years with no success. That is why I decided to put a crate motor in it.

I also run a carbed 85 Mustang in M&N/Stock. I too am suprised at this HP adjustment, Out of the 4 or 5 of us than run this combo, other than Summers convert, we are all struggling to go 1 sec. under (my best is .83 under) I thought than NHRA normally factored the engine AND the body in question. If so, shouldn`t only a convertable get hit? Like Eric said, 1/2 second of index for less than 250 lbs seems a bit generous.
As for the 83&84 Mustangs 5.0`s, the E5 heads the 85`s use are no better than the D8`s the 78-84 Mustangs use, the only difference is the bottom of the intake side of the casting is clearanced to allow the hyd. roller lifters to be removed without removing the heads. Same ports, valves, chamber volume. The pistons are also the same, although the 83 can have the piston sticking .013" above the deck, 85 is zero. The 84 & 85 use the same intake manifold, the 83 is the same other than the EGR passage.The 83-4 cam is a flat hydraulic, with less int. lift, but a bit more exh. lift. Other than the hyd. roller cam, the other "big news" for the 85 Mustang was the factory "tube headers", compared to the cast iron manifolds on the earlier 302`s, which is of no consequence on a Stocker anyways. As far as I know, the 82 HO 2 barrel, as well as the 83-84 4 barrel Mustang engines were all "stick only". If you wanted an automatic, you had to run the CFI set up.

[Eric Cabral]

James,
Cashman should be looking at guys who go fast! He is going to need someone to develop a fast wheelchair for the players he keeps signing so they can play out those ridiculous contracts.
PS we all got new red sox shirts for next year that say WORLD SERIES 07 on them just for you guys

[James Perrone]

Come on Eric YOU KNOW CHICKS LOVE THE LONG BALL!!.Why run when you can TROT!
Don't forget at least NY WON THE LUCUS OIL STOCK ELIMINATOR WOLD SERIES!!

[Stephen & Horace Johnson]

Originally Posted by Eric Cabral

I understand I helped by going over a sec under. But I was smart enough to not set the trigger. With the air at the reading race I easily could have been in the 11's but added weight and backed it down to stay below. I was 100 pounds heavy and shortshifted to stay safe.It just drives me crazy to see this happen from someone else. I want to know where the two triggers were because that is what it takes, correct? If I was a B or H car etc it happens. A lot of heads ups there. Not in a class w/six of us where there is no need now, but will be w/FI cars coming over.Just venting Time to go back to making more hp I guess.
Eric
I know Keith I suppose I shouldn't complain about 3 hp but you know where I'm coming from.I love the analogy!!!!!

Eric

I would like to talk to you about your combo? I have a 85 mustang that i drive on the street with a 331 and I am thinking of turning it into a stocker, I have original heads, intake and carb. Is there a number that I can reach you?


Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA
National Record Holder

[Chris1529]

You had better keep the 331 bottom end to run that class now!

is it a coupe or hatchback?

[Stephen & Horace Johnson]

Originally Posted by Chris1529

You had better keep the 331 bottom end to run that class now!

is it a coupe or hatchback?

ummm I dont think the bottom end would pass tech..lol, Its a hatchback