Pro Mod or Pro Stock?

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by joespanova

Don't hold your breath on that one. You have a passion for Pro Stock and if surveyed ( PS to PM ) you'd be in the minority.
Like I said before...........the PS class has become a bore , all Camaros and not very exciting to watch. You can be sure of this................if they don't rethink the concept of the class , it will die off within the next 10 years. Pro Mod will continue to increase in popularity and PS's will diminish.
Pro Stock? Give me a break...........500 inches and carbs? How much more detatched from the production platform can you get?
Small blocks and fuel injection / turbos are waaay more appropriate to suggest anything even "remotely" indicative of Pro "stock".
At a minimum get rid of the 500 inch combos..........

Exactly what fuel injected small block Pro Mod car are you talking about? And for that matter, how many supercharged 500 inch cars are they making these days? Especially running on a 14-71 blower and a buzzard catcher, or a 120MM turbo charger, or maybe 2-3 stage of nitrous? Sorry, not buying the idea that a stretched wheelbase Pro Stock chassis and body that looks like a funny car with a 500 cubic inch supercharged or nitrous injected engine is closer to modern production cars than a normally aspirated Pro Stock car.

[Rob Petrie E395]

Look at it like this for a minute. Its easy to say kill Pro Stock or change to this or that. When you don't own one or have to pay for the changes. How would we like it if someone decided to kill Stock and Super Stock? After the whole PST deal I think it would take alot for NHRA to kill another class. Especially a Pro class.

[boostedf22c]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Exactly what fuel injected small block Pro Mod car are you talking about? And for that matter, how many supercharged 500 inch cars are they making these days? Especially running on a 14-71 blower and a buzzard catcher, or a 120MM turbo charger, or maybe 2-3 stage of nitrous? Sorry, not buying the idea that a stretched wheelbase Pro Stock chassis and body that looks like a funny car with a 500 cubic inch supercharged or nitrous injected engine is closer to modern production cars than a normally aspirated Pro Stock car.

Neither of them are even close to resembling modern production cars.

[joespanova]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Exactly what fuel injected small block Pro Mod car are you talking about? And for that matter, how many supercharged 500 inch cars are they making these days? Especially running on a 14-71 blower and a buzzard catcher, or a 120MM turbo charger, or maybe 2-3 stage of nitrous? Sorry, not buying the idea that a stretched wheelbase Pro Stock chassis and body that looks like a funny car with a 500 cubic inch supercharged or nitrous injected engine is closer to modern production cars than a normally aspirated Pro Stock car.

Alan , did you actually READ what I said.......read it again. Your reply has zero connection to my post.
I SAID..............PRO STOCK should be small blocks w/ fuel injection and or turbos.
Read my post again.
Leave Pro Mod out of this..........

[SSGT Mustang]

Pro Mod is awesome. Pro Stock is not.

Pro Mod represent the roots of competitive drag racing. Run whatcha brung. Different cars, some crazy stuff, some not so crazy, various combination, innovation, and most of all, scary fast and exciting.

Pro Stock used to be great, but not anymore. The fire burned out long ago. It's become pretty much the naturally aspirated version of funny car. What a shame.

For my money, Pro Mod over Pro Stock any day and twice on Sunday.

[Ed Wright]

Guessing you don't have a friend that runs Pro Stock? I do/did. Nothing like a funny car. Many 2 year old, or older, Pro Stock cars end up running in Comp with a different engine. Nothing at all in common with a funny car.

[SSGT Mustang]

You're right. I don't know anyone who runs pro stock. But I've been drag racing for more than 30 years and I remember when pro stock was pro stock. I also remember the pro mod guys like Oddy and Animal Jim who used to do grudge races, and always to a full crowd.

Pro stock has become like funny car because the bodies look nothing like the production cars, and the motors are not like the production motors. Glidden used to run a Boss Hemi, the Chrysler guys used to run a 426 based hemi or a wedge, Pontiac guys ran Pontiac motors and BBC's guys ran basically BBCs. The bodies resembled real cars, like Glidden in a T bird and the late great Lee Shepherd in a Camaro.

Now, in a 16 car field, if you can get a 16 car field, you have basically one body style and one style motor, with the exception of Allen Johnson and sometime V. Gaines. Does that mean that the drivers, tuners and engine builders are not working hard? Absolutely not. But the greatness of pro stock has been lost.

Because of all the PC crap, there can't even be real rivalries anymore. To see a burn down today looks like a joke. When you saw a burn down between Glidden and Johnson, it was a BURN DOWN. It had meaning. People dominated because they tried new combinations and worked them. Like when Glidden went from a Cleveland to the Hemi, and Reher and Morrison went to a BBC.

I'm one of the odd Super Stock guys who actually likes fuel and alcohol cars. They are awesome, and anyone who has the nads to drive them deserves respect. I don't care about crashes, I care about how these guys get those cars down track. Same with pro mod. The fuel cars, the alcohol cars and the pro mod cars will always be the top draw because they are killers. They push the limits of human ingenuity. They are almost super human.

Pro stock used to have a strong following too, because people saw the diversity in the cars, the combination and the rivalry. They didn't just root for the driver. They rooted for the full package. And, teams didn't lease engines.

And about those fuel cars. It's interesting to look back and see how Garlits was so ahead of his time and a true innovator. I remember people joking about his bubble hooded dragster back in the day. Now, it's the "new thing." At least he had the nerve to go out there and try new things that people used to scoff at.

Times have changed. But pro mod to me at least represents what drag racing used to be. I'm not sure what can be done with Pro Stock, but I do know that I'm not the only one who feels that it has lost its appeal, and I used to be a die hard pro stock guy.

[boostedf22c]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Guessing you don't have a friend that runs Pro Stock? I do/did. Nothing like a funny car. Many 2 year old, or older, Pro Stock cars end up running in Comp with a different engine. Nothing at all in common with a funny car.

Id love to get ahold of a pro stock roller. It's hard running in comp with a back half car. At least in the class I'm running.

[BRIAN SEATE]

Bottom line, the average fan likes noise and 300 mph. It means nothing to us, we actually understand how cars work and appreciate them. The average fan cant relate because they are clueless. People are so used to the speed that anything other than nitro bores them. How do you fix it? Quite simply, you cant. For me, I like both. The money is the key, teams cant operate at competitive levels on a shoestring. We all know this. Take a look around, it`s not a car culture anymore either. How many kids can graduate from high school and buy a new 40,000 car?

[Dick Butler]

Hundreds flocked to a theater to watch a computer game contest and paid seat prices. Probably came in Prius or on bicycle. Cars are not part of the process of growing up anymore and prices are a big part as well as other forms of entertainment in the palm of your hand for $100.