Does anybody really care?

Mickey Whaley · 06-10-2015, 01:52 PM

man the beach is looking good!

Bruce Noland · 06-10-2015, 02:21 PM

Several years ago Tom Compton stood up at a meeting with Sportsman racers and said he knew that nhra had not been treating the Sportsman racers very well. He said that things were going to change. Now, why has nhra been treating the Sportsman racers so poorly? Tom admits they have not treated us well and yet nothing has changed. Apparently empty words coming from a man who is running on empty. Aside from the personal tragedy of a man's career running of the tracks. Why should we care is a more important question. And I do empathize with his personal problems but he's presented himself to us as an unsympathetic man.

Lyn Smith · 06-10-2015, 03:51 PM

Bruce maybe he is gone now because he didn't make good on his promise.LOL

Alan Roehrich · 06-10-2015, 09:27 PM

I wish the man no personal ill or tragedy. For the human part of his plight, I consider him to be just that, a human, and hope that his personal life improves.

However, I'd like to see him and his ilk gone from NHRA, and yesterday would not be soon enough.

As far as the apathy of sportsman racers to the lack of his presence in the day to day operations of NHRA, it seems to me that most sportsman racers have resigned themselves to the way NHRA is treating them, and it makes no difference whose face is put on that. First and foremost, they want more than anything to race, and they wish NHRA would treat them the way they should be treated. So, they race, and they make the best of the situation as it stands. I can't really see where it should matter whose face NHRA puts on it.

Another Friendly Racer · 06-11-2015, 10:58 AM

According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, $15,000 in 1989 has the same buying power as $28,621 today. What does a national event winner + class winner pull in today after contingencies ?

Alan Roehrich · 06-11-2015, 11:11 AM

If they've got all the decals on the car and bought their parts with an eye on contingency payouts, maybe $7K, I'd be surprised if anyone in Stock or Super Stock cracked $10K for a win. Friends that race for a living say maybe $5K or so.

Mark Yacavone · 06-11-2015, 11:48 AM

I hope this doesn't sound like I'm sticking up for NHRA management.
I would say the decline in contingency awards has more to do with the economy in general, than NHRA.
The economy is not well and not getting better.
Some would make the case that it's terminal.
Take a look at the most recent Divisional entries in Div 2.
Those who still have money left will continue to race until they too, run out, or the dollar collapses completely.
Again ,there's a good case being made that it is inevitable.
But that brings us into political discussion,...and the bottom of the main page.

06-10-2015, 01:52 PM	#1
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Does anybody really care? man the beach is looking good!

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Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Does anybody really care? Several years ago Tom Compton stood up at a meeting with Sportsman racers and said he knew that nhra had not been treating the Sportsman racers very well. He said that things were going to change. Now, why has nhra been treating the Sportsman racers so poorly? Tom admits they have not treated us well and yet nothing has changed. Apparently empty words coming from a man who is running on empty. Aside from the personal tragedy of a man's career running of the tracks. Why should we care is a more important question. And I do empathize with his personal problems but he's presented himself to us as an unsympathetic man. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

06-10-2015, 03:51 PM	#3
Lyn Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pontiac,il. Posts: 1,203 Likes: 284 Liked 976 Times in 196 Posts	Re: Does anybody really care? Bruce maybe he is gone now because he didn't make good on his promise.LOL

06-10-2015, 09:27 PM	#4
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,116 Likes: 1,573 Liked 1,829 Times in 414 Posts	Re: Does anybody really care? I wish the man no personal ill or tragedy. For the human part of his plight, I consider him to be just that, a human, and hope that his personal life improves. However, I'd like to see him and his ilk gone from NHRA, and yesterday would not be soon enough. As far as the apathy of sportsman racers to the lack of his presence in the day to day operations of NHRA, it seems to me that most sportsman racers have resigned themselves to the way NHRA is treating them, and it makes no difference whose face is put on that. First and foremost, they want more than anything to race, and they wish NHRA would treat them the way they should be treated. So, they race, and they make the best of the situation as it stands. I can't really see where it should matter whose face NHRA puts on it. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

06-11-2015, 10:58 AM	#5
Another Friendly Racer Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 152 Likes: 0 Liked 19 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Does anybody really care? According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, $15,000 in 1989 has the same buying power as $28,621 today. What does a national event winner + class winner pull in today after contingencies ?

06-11-2015, 11:11 AM	#6
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,116 Likes: 1,573 Liked 1,829 Times in 414 Posts	Re: Does anybody really care? If they've got all the decals on the car and bought their parts with an eye on contingency payouts, maybe $7K, I'd be surprised if anyone in Stock or Super Stock cracked $10K for a win. Friends that race for a living say maybe $5K or so. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

06-11-2015, 11:48 AM	#7
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,817 Likes: 2,907 Liked 5,124 Times in 1,953 Posts	Re: Does anybody really care? I hope this doesn't sound like I'm sticking up for NHRA management. I would say the decline in contingency awards has more to do with the economy in general, than NHRA. The economy is not well and not getting better. Some would make the case that it's terminal. Take a look at the most recent Divisional entries in Div 2. Those who still have money left will continue to race until they too, run out, or the dollar collapses completely. Again ,there's a good case being made that it is inevitable. But that brings us into political discussion,...and the bottom of the main page. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers