Update E-F/SA Bird Build... - Page 21

brent flynn · 09-30-2014, 09:29 PM

Yeah... Gillespie says he has a couple...i have yet to call him...but im gonna... tryin to save my pennies and nickels...Im sure its costing me...and im sure my cam is a little mild at 251/256* , and using std lifters and 160#/340# springs.

brent flynn · 10-03-2014, 09:31 PM

Pic from last Saturday... low 11.50s and an 11.493 , at the end of the eve....went 5 rounds....

HandOverFist · 10-03-2014, 10:11 PM

Good show Brent! We are headed to Music City Raceway tm for a try at another final...tough crowd up in Nashville.

chris ok · 10-04-2014, 10:33 AM

Looks great man, keep enjoying it.
Chris

brent flynn · 10-05-2014, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HandOverFist

Good show Brent! We are headed to Music City Raceway tm for a try at another final...tough crowd up in Nashville.

Ive ran there... good track... its been since 2007, since i was there... ran the Thanksgiving deal that year...went 2 rounds on Friday, and 3 on Saturday...think it rained on Sunday. Didnt get to race today...COLD! and Windy! So, i stayed home and worked on organization ...

brent flynn · 10-09-2014, 08:53 PM

new best, last night... it was cool out, for sure... I fattened it up a bit, and it responded fairly well...just not seeing any real MPH gains, when ET picks up...
Ive went from 11.60 to 11.44 and have only seen .5 mph gain...Im thinkin im overgeared, just a tad... Thinkin about the 4.30 back in, and short radial...that is a compromise between the 4.56 and tall radial...what do you think?
Im trapping at 6300, now... It may trap just as much with 4.30 and short radial...i dont know. I went from .048s to .045 to .041 rods last night... fastest pass(this ticket) was with the .045s, but i think humidity was really coming in, when i went to .041s, but still managed an 11.448/115.05 with 1.520 60'. Gonna have to let go of some $, if i want to run any faster... Cam/valvetrain or trans... Im pretty happy with it, for the parts that are there, and the $ I've spent... Very low budget deal, compared to most, and it shows...hehe

HandOverFist · 10-10-2014, 01:23 AM

Our cars are nearly identical in performance Brent, but your mph is always higher. I bet a metric 200 tranny installed in yours would be a solid gain.

brent flynn · 10-11-2014, 12:03 AM

I will do something with the trans next year...Not sure if i will go with a 200, or a tricked out 350...i want reliability, since im not worried about any class wins...
And will have to go with more duration on the cam...im in at 251/256, with a soft ramp... Im sure thats where alot of my performance is goin...

My mph is better, most likely cause i have less gear and a tad more HP and torque. Im surprised that im not getting more MPH out of it... I was hoping for 117, atleast...Not expecting much more than that...for now....

HandOverFist · 10-11-2014, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by brent flynn

I will do something with the trans next year...Not sure if i will go with a 200, or a tricked out 350...i want reliability, since im not worried about any class wins...
And will have to go with more duration on the cam...im in at 251/256, with a soft ramp... Im sure thats where alot of my performance is goin...

My mph is better, most likely cause i have less gear and a tad more HP and torque. Im surprised that im not getting more MPH out of it... I was hoping for 117, atleast...Not expecting much more than that...for now....

Our spat with breakage was due to mis-matched motor mounts, not any weakness in transmissions. From my limited experience I would bet a minimum of a tenth reduction in et with no reliability issues. Nearly everyone in these parts run the 200 now and most are seriously quicker than our car. You need to talk to Thomas Arnett in KY if you decide to make the change...best fellow I have ever dealt with and a Stock racer himself. Here is a pic of his bad to the bone A/SA Camaro which uses the same 200 metric he builds for everyone else...

Btw, what do you think of this truck I'm eyeballing? It's a '85 Dodge with a late model Turbo Cummings and 5-speed.

Robert Simpson · 10-11-2014, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HandOverFist

Our spat with breakage was due to mis-matched motor mounts, not any weakness in transmissions. From my limited experience I would bet a minimum of a tenth reduction in et with no reliability issues. Nearly everyone in these parts run the 200 now and most are seriously quicker than our car. You need to talk to Thomas Arnett in KY if you decide to make the change...best fellow I have ever dealt with and a Stock racer himself. Here is a pic of his bad to the bone A/SA Camaro which uses the same 200 metric he builds for everyone else...

Btw, what do you think of this truck I'm eyeballing? It's a '85 Dodge with a late model Turbo Cummings and 5-speed.

Hey guys does Thomas Arnett have a E-mail? I tried to contact him through IM but no answer and do you have a P#? Thanks

09-30-2014, 09:29 PM	#201
brent flynn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middletown, IN Posts: 593 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Yeah... Gillespie says he has a couple...i have yet to call him...but im gonna... tryin to save my pennies and nickels...Im sure its costing me...and im sure my cam is a little mild at 251/256* , and using std lifters and 160#/340# springs. __________________ 1968 Bird/TRW 455/Home ported 13's, '70 Qjet,Holley Street Dominator manifold, Comp Solid FT, 10.817/122.30/1.440 Workin' on E/SA combo 3119 E/SA

10-03-2014, 09:31 PM	#202
brent flynn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middletown, IN Posts: 593 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Pic from last Saturday... low 11.50s and an 11.493 , at the end of the eve....went 5 rounds.... __________________ 1968 Bird/TRW 455/Home ported 13's, '70 Qjet,Holley Street Dominator manifold, Comp Solid FT, 10.817/122.30/1.440 Workin' on E/SA combo 3119 E/SA

10-03-2014, 10:11 PM	#203
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Good show Brent! We are headed to Music City Raceway tm for a try at another final...tough crowd up in Nashville. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

10-04-2014, 10:33 AM	#204
chris ok Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Long Island, New york Posts: 592 Likes: 131 Liked 46 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Looks great man, keep enjoying it. Chris

10-09-2014, 08:53 PM	#206
brent flynn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middletown, IN Posts: 593 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... new best, last night... it was cool out, for sure... I fattened it up a bit, and it responded fairly well...just not seeing any real MPH gains, when ET picks up... Ive went from 11.60 to 11.44 and have only seen .5 mph gain...Im thinkin im overgeared, just a tad... Thinkin about the 4.30 back in, and short radial...that is a compromise between the 4.56 and tall radial...what do you think? Im trapping at 6300, now... It may trap just as much with 4.30 and short radial...i dont know. I went from .048s to .045 to .041 rods last night... fastest pass(this ticket) was with the .045s, but i think humidity was really coming in, when i went to .041s, but still managed an 11.448/115.05 with 1.520 60'. Gonna have to let go of some $, if i want to run any faster... Cam/valvetrain or trans... Im pretty happy with it, for the parts that are there, and the $ I've spent... Very low budget deal, compared to most, and it shows...hehe __________________ 1968 Bird/TRW 455/Home ported 13's, '70 Qjet,Holley Street Dominator manifold, Comp Solid FT, 10.817/122.30/1.440 Workin' on E/SA combo 3119 E/SA

10-10-2014, 01:23 AM	#207
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Our cars are nearly identical in performance Brent, but your mph is always higher. I bet a metric 200 tranny installed in yours would be a solid gain. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

10-11-2014, 12:03 AM	#208
brent flynn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middletown, IN Posts: 593 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... I will do something with the trans next year...Not sure if i will go with a 200, or a tricked out 350...i want reliability, since im not worried about any class wins... And will have to go with more duration on the cam...im in at 251/256, with a soft ramp... Im sure thats where alot of my performance is goin... My mph is better, most likely cause i have less gear and a tad more HP and torque. Im surprised that im not getting more MPH out of it... I was hoping for 117, atleast...Not expecting much more than that...for now.... __________________ 1968 Bird/TRW 455/Home ported 13's, '70 Qjet,Holley Street Dominator manifold, Comp Solid FT, 10.817/122.30/1.440 Workin' on E/SA combo 3119 E/SA