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Old 09-09-2014, 03:37 PM   #1
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Since you seem to have a total handle on it, you fix it. Here are a couple of facts for you to work with. The new cars are not going away. NHRA has no interest on what is posted here. Some sort of representative thought process from a person or committee might get a look. Just my vain attempt to help as I have done since the 90's. And as I finally found out after several years of the SRA days, everyone is only interested in their own combo and has no interest in the majority of racers. So, you fix it. Tech@NHRA.com is where your plans should go. I'm sure they will welcome it with open arms.
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Old 09-09-2014, 04:11 PM   #2
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Since you seem to have a total handle on it, you fix it. Here are a couple of facts for you to work with. The new cars are not going away. NHRA has no interest on what is posted here. Some sort of representative thought process from a person or committee might get a look. Just my vain attempt to help as I have done since the 90's. And as I finally found out after several years of the SRA days, everyone is only interested in their own combo and has no interest in the majority of racers. So, you fix it. Tech@NHRA.com is where your plans should go. I'm sure they will welcome it with open arms.
Since you've been involved in helping improve stock since the 90's, did you have your opinion taken into consideration when the LT1 hit and you were driving your old iron? Were you wanting them in their own class back then? What's so different now other than the script is flipped and now you have the completely unfair advantage?

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Old 09-09-2014, 04:16 PM   #3
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Well now that you mention that, I am thinking about buying it back. The combo has new aluminum heads and 10 less hp. My mistake, it is down 15 HP and the new aluminum heads are plus 5 which is a bargain. 135 lbs less than when I raced it. Wow, that is down to what my DP weighs in SS, and that old 440-6 made more power and a lot more torque. Watch for coming attractions.
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Old 09-09-2014, 04:35 PM   #4
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Well now that you mention that, I am thinking about buying it back. The combo has new aluminum heads and 10 less hp. My mistake, it is down 15 HP and the new aluminum heads are plus 5 which is a bargain. 135 lbs less than when I raced it. Wow, that is down to what my DP weighs in SS, and that old 440-6 made more power and a lot more torque. Watch for coming attractions.
You should bring it back. I know the people I bring to the races would much rather watch it run than some car they see on the road 50 times every day. Problem being, even if you gave it back HP and it landed in the class your current car is in, it would still get destroyed heads up.

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Old 09-09-2014, 04:54 PM   #5
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You should bring it back. I know the people I bring to the races would much rather watch it run than some car they see on the road 50 times every day. Problem being, even if you gave it back HP and it landed in the class your current car is in, it would still get destroyed heads up.

Not sure but I dont beleive that it was ever stated that new cars weren't faster than any old car. I believe that the case but if you get the older cars to where they can push the new cars to take hits wont it even up the field? Why is such a sin to have the new cars in stock? Lets see its 2014 why would anyone not want to see todays latest and greatest in what was started for present day drag racing? It has to be a mixed field for it keep the sport going. But hey I'm only 33yrs old and love to see new muscle cars put them on the back bumper and still run 150mph!
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Not sure but I dont beleive that it was ever stated that new cars weren't faster than any old car. I believe that the case but if you get the older cars to where they can push the new cars to take hits wont it even up the field? Why is such a sin to have the new cars in stock? Lets see its 2014 why would anyone not want to see todays latest and greatest in what was started for present day drag racing? It has to be a mixed field for it keep the sport going. But hey I'm only 33yrs old and love to see new muscle cars put them on the back bumper and still run 150mph!
Old vs New has nothing to do with it. It's fair vs unfair. Just so happens ALL the new cars are unfairly rated by at least 15%

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Old 09-09-2014, 05:44 PM   #7
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The solution is simple. A through F FX classes for cars that were made in 2008 and later without a vin number and motor combinations that were not in street cars. 1lb weight breaks, sticks and autos together, or not. They could stay in stock eliminator, but they could not beat up on the older cars in class or heads up. As for the Factory Stock race at Indy, that needs to be it's own race and have nothing to do with stock eliminator
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Old 09-09-2014, 04:55 PM   #8
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All it takes is somewhat realistic hp factors for the new cars. They won't "have to add weight and break parts", they move up to the classes they belonged in to begin with.
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