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Old 08-28-2014, 05:25 PM   #1
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Default Re: 59 stockers didnt make the cut of 128

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So right you are--its a GD shame that good cars cant race because of underrated factory race cars--nhra make a separate class for factory hot rods!
I don`t think being underrated has anything to do with it,it`s the FS cars with no HP penalty. I`d like to see what the qualifying sheet would look like if the FS cars had the same rules as the rest of the field for this event.
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Old 08-28-2014, 05:43 PM   #2
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I don`t think being underrated has anything to do with it,it`s the FS cars with no HP penalty. I`d like to see what the qualifying sheet would look like if the FS cars had the same rules as the rest of the field for this event.
They simply would have slowed them down to being just under one second under to avoid the AHFS hit,just like some old cars have been known to do.

What would have changed? They still would have qualified.
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Old 08-28-2014, 08:37 PM   #3
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They simply would have slowed them down to being just under one second under to avoid the AHFS hit,just like some old cars have been known to do.

What would have changed? They still would have qualified.
^This!!!




Being a new car owner it sucks having so much hate due to the FS cars. I wish they would work something out for them, because they are on a whole other level then the production cars that are sold. Anyone thinks off the floor cars go 1+ under when you buy them are just crazy.

As far as slowing down 442OLDS is spot on. I know of MANY old combos that have 1.00 under on tap anytime they want it. I was bitch slapped this year by one!

A wise fellow from Comp told me "Some guys want to go fast and some guys want to win! What do you want to be?"

Indy is one of the few the require both, but that's why it's the Super bowl of S/SS racing right?

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Old 08-28-2014, 11:49 PM   #4
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Anyone thinks off the floor cars go 1+ under when you buy them are just crazy.
I don't care what they go off the floor. If you get out run by half a second by someone with the same combo, you should not qualify for the show even if you go 1.00 under.

I saw A LOT of all out runs from old cars (very fast old cars) this weekend in the .95 under range. Not many 1.00 under cars in Indy weather.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:00 AM   #5
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I don't care what they go off the floor. If you get out run by half a second by someone with the same combo, you should not qualify for the show even if you go 1.00 under.

I saw A LOT of all out runs from old cars (very fast old cars) this weekend in the .95 under range. Not many 1.00 under cars in Indy weather.
I saw the same thing. A lot of really good older cars looked to be running all out this year, much more so than in recent years. Fighting for a solid spot in the second half of the ladder.
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:17 AM   #6
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I don`t think being underrated has anything to do with it,it`s the FS cars with no HP penalty. I`d like to see what the qualifying sheet would look like if the FS cars had the same rules as the rest of the field for this event.
I don't think it would change. You'd just have 30 factory cars bunched up around a second under. All the .80 under cars would still be out looking in.

That's why NHRA needs an independent Factory class where they can beat each other up with no AHFS. Give the croud a show, but leave the real racing for 2007 and OLDER cars.
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:54 AM   #7
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Participants by class that qualified for Indy Stock field:

100.00% - G/S - 4/4
100.00% - I/SA - 3/3
100.00% - K/S - 3/3
100.00% - AA/SA - 2/2
100.00% - R/S - 2/2
100.00% - M/SA - 2/2
100.00% - U/SA - 2/2
100.00% - O/SA - 1/1
100.00% - P/S - 1/1
100.00% - Q/SA - 1/1
100.00% - V/S - 1/1
100.00% - EF/S - 1/1
93.33% - FS/A - 14/15
83.33% - BB/SA - 5/6
83.33% - H/SA - 5/6
80.00% - C/SA - 8/10
75.00% - E/S - 3/4
73.33% - FS/B - 11/15
69.23% - G/SA - 9/13
66.67% - CC/SA - 4/6
66.67% - K/SA - 4/6
66.67% - B/S - 2/3
66.67% - D/S - 2/3
58.82% - B/SA - 10/17
57.14% - E/SA - 4/7
56.25% - A/SA - 9/16
50.00% - F/SA - 4/8
50.00% - A/S - 2/4
50.00% - AAA/SA - 1/2
50.00% - C/S - 1/2
50.00% - L/SA - 1/2
50.00% - N/SA - 1/2
45.45% - D/SA - 5/11
00.00% - R/SA - 0/1
00.00% - W/S - 0/1
00.00% - J/SA - 0/2
00.00% - V/SA - 0/2

There would have been four 1-car-class bump-ins this year under the old system.
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Old 08-29-2014, 01:27 AM   #8
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Mike V,
You're on the right path, the marketing of these cars is silly! Why don't they have their own eliminator and leave the pre '08 cars alone?
The longer they let 'em go the bigger the problem gets !

The disparity is obvious, cars that can run 8:50's, over 150 MPH in Stock Eliminator is absurd.!!

I think the public/fans/racers would like to see a show with the big 3 doing their stuff again but it's stupid to put 'em into the regular Stock Eliminator field, it does no good.

Separate them and build the show, it's a no brainer to me !! Let 'em run ?
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Old 08-29-2014, 05:13 AM   #9
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Mike V,
You're on the right path, the marketing of these cars is silly! Why don't they have their own eliminator and leave the pre '08 cars alone?
The longer they let 'em go the bigger the problem gets !

The disparity is obvious, cars that can run 8:50's, over 150 MPH in Stock Eliminator is absurd.!!

I think the public/fans/racers would like to see a show with the big 3 doing their stuff again but it's stupid to put 'em into the regular Stock Eliminator field, it does no good.

Separate them and build the show, it's a no brainer to me !! Let 'em run ?
Quite obvious that the hats worn by NHRA uppers are just rock bags
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Old 08-29-2014, 07:36 AM   #10
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NHRA likes NEW fast cars! The Crate motors are much easier to keep track of.
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