Erica pulls out of Sonoma & Seattle

FireSale · 07-23-2014, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by deuces wild

Read a pro stock thread the other day and a few of the pro stock guys posted on it saying it cost 70,000.00 plus per race to field a car. That's why car counts are down and teams are skipping races. I'm sure that's why Greg Stanfield has missed so many races this year. That's insane how much it costs. I don't know how anyone does it.

At 16 races per year that's 1.2 million per season, which is about right. That's a tax write off to some degree for a sponsor.

Dale

ALMACK · 07-23-2014, 04:02 PM

I think she is doing a fine job of driving.

And the whole team right now has the right chemistry.

Congrats to that whole team on their accomplishments !

I feel certain that pulling out of 2 races is purely a business decision, not a blow against her fans.
I would imagine she really wants to race.

Ed Wright · 07-23-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FireSail

At 16 races per year that's 1.2 million per season, which is about right. That's a tax write off to some degree for a sponsor.

Dale

IF you have a sponsor who can "write it off". All a "write off" does is lower your taxable income, you are taxed on that much less. It's not like you get that amount back in your pocket somehow.

If your racing on your own dime......

And, since the Freeman family pretty much races out of their own pockets, they do not "owe" it to anybody to show up for a race.

Lee Valentine · 07-23-2014, 06:17 PM

Firesail, as a former P/S crew chief all I can say is you don't have a clue.Try running a competitive stoker and multiply it by 20 times and stay on the road 30 weeks a year. Lee.

FireSale · 07-23-2014, 07:42 PM

Just to clarify, I don't have anything against Erica as a driver. She is obviously quick on the tree and her crew knows what they are doing. I'm also not trying to slight anyone who tries to run a program like this. It's obviously a daunting task.

I'm a spectator building a race car and I'm looking at $166 in tickets here for all three days to the race at Pacific. I'm a race fan, not a driver fan, so her not running won't bother me. If I were a driver fan, it might. I'm just trying to make the point that these drivers aren't Sportsman racers anymore and have a responsibility to the fan base that shouldn't be ignored.

I'll back out with that.

EDIT: Racing the Championship circuit costs all the Pro class drivers a big chunk of income because they aren't available for match races. NHRA should find a way to compensate teams that forgo this to race at National events week after week.

Dale

Ed Wright · 07-23-2014, 07:45 PM

They don't have a responsibility to show so you can see them. Only if they have a big sponsor that requires it. That is all.

gumbalaya · 07-23-2014, 11:26 PM

I think Erica can't get/keep a sponsor is because she is unprofessional & has the personality of a 2 year old. She runs her yap when she wins and pouts when she looses. She's butted heads with a lot of the drivers on the tour, and she seemingly can't figure out why they can't stand her.

She thinks that Connolly screwed her at Indy a little while back, when he cut a light & she didn't, and they've been enemies ever since.

She drives well most of the time, but it seems as though potential sponsors prefer drivers/people/adults with a personality, and she doens't have one.

FINESPLINE · 07-28-2014, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FireSail

At 16 races per year that's 1.2 million per season, which is about right. That's a tax write off to some degree for a sponsor.

Dale

And I guess you believe the politicians and the news that the economy is getting better by the day. There is not a lot of corporate money available to fund the high end racers. If you don't have it to front the effort , you can't write it off.

FireSale · 07-28-2014, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FINESPLINE

And I guess you believe the politicians and the news that the economy is getting better by the day. There is not a lot of corporate money available to fund the high end racers. If you don't have it to front the effort , you can't write it off.

What I mean is that money spent by a company on name bearing racing operations is a tax deduction as advertising expenses. IE: Lowes and Dewalt in NASCAR. The cars are billboards. If Elite, Summit and Jegs don't write off some of their racing expenses then they need new accountants.

Dale

SSGT Mustang · 07-28-2014, 08:24 PM

My father used to say to me: "Son, you need to make enough money, to spend enough money, to write off that money."

Surely, Elite (and Erica Enders-Stevens) has decided to miss the race just to piss people off.......

07-23-2014, 04:02 PM	#2
ALMACK VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 1,937 Likes: 131 Liked 369 Times in 127 Posts	Re: Erica pulls out of Sonoma & Seattle I think she is doing a fine job of driving. And the whole team right now has the right chemistry. Congrats to that whole team on their accomplishments ! I feel certain that pulling out of 2 races is purely a business decision, not a blow against her fans. I would imagine she really wants to race. __________________ Alan Mackin Stock 3777/ SS 3377 P/SA & SS/PA Fox Thunderbird I/PS '95 Mustang GT

07-23-2014, 06:17 PM	#4
Lee Valentine Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Brookfield, CT Posts: 708 Likes: 13 Liked 319 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Erica pulls out of Sonoma & Seattle Firesail, as a former P/S crew chief all I can say is you don't have a clue.Try running a competitive stoker and multiply it by 20 times and stay on the road 30 weeks a year. Lee. __________________ Lee Valentine 1661 STK

07-23-2014, 07:42 PM	#5
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Re: Erica pulls out of Sonoma & Seattle Just to clarify, I don't have anything against Erica as a driver. She is obviously quick on the tree and her crew knows what they are doing. I'm also not trying to slight anyone who tries to run a program like this. It's obviously a daunting task. I'm a spectator building a race car and I'm looking at $166 in tickets here for all three days to the race at Pacific. I'm a race fan, not a driver fan, so her not running won't bother me. If I were a driver fan, it might. I'm just trying to make the point that these drivers aren't Sportsman racers anymore and have a responsibility to the fan base that shouldn't be ignored. I'll back out with that. EDIT: Racing the Championship circuit costs all the Pro class drivers a big chunk of income because they aren't available for match races. NHRA should find a way to compensate teams that forgo this to race at National events week after week. Dale __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394 Last edited by FireSale; 07-23-2014 at 07:47 PM.

07-23-2014, 07:45 PM	#6
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Erica pulls out of Sonoma & Seattle They don't have a responsibility to show so you can see them. Only if they have a big sponsor that requires it. That is all. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

07-23-2014, 11:26 PM	#7
gumbalaya Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 47 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Erica pulls out of Sonoma & Seattle I think Erica can't get/keep a sponsor is because she is unprofessional & has the personality of a 2 year old. She runs her yap when she wins and pouts when she looses. She's butted heads with a lot of the drivers on the tour, and she seemingly can't figure out why they can't stand her. She thinks that Connolly screwed her at Indy a little while back, when he cut a light & she didn't, and they've been enemies ever since. She drives well most of the time, but it seems as though potential sponsors prefer drivers/people/adults with a personality, and she doens't have one. __________________ Kyle Griffith

07-28-2014, 08:24 PM	#10
SSGT Mustang Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey Posts: 359 Likes: 35 Liked 204 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Erica pulls out of Sonoma & Seattle My father used to say to me: "Son, you need to make enough money, to spend enough money, to write off that money." Surely, Elite (and Erica Enders-Stevens) has decided to miss the race just to piss people off.......