Quickest "Real" Pontiac

Carguy49 · 02-25-2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865

I am pretty sure Leo Glasbrenner has a pont 455 in his late model firebird he's been at least 9.60s

I had forgotten about the late model super stocker that he runs. If that is true - WOW.

Also, if the cars Stacy and Don have run 428 pontiac power then we have some very fast Pontiac powered race cars out there.

Now I have a question for all of you - - - How long before we see an 8 second Pontiac Super Stocker or a 9 second Pontiac Stocker???????

To qualify they must both be Pontiac powered and Pontiac bodied.

Lynn A McCarty · 02-26-2014, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Carguy49

Now I have a question for all of you - - - How long before we see an 8 second Pontiac Super Stocker or a 9 second Pontiac Stocker???????

To qualify they must both be Pontiac powered and Pontiac bodied.

8.99 means 1.11 under, they wouldnt dare! Stacy has to weigh 110 lbs more than the class minimum due to the gerrymandering of the Grand Am factory shipping weight. He did run 9.13 at Indy @ 3600 feet, with the 110 extra. ;-)

Also, we are doing a 406 Ram Air V soon, so we hope to skip the 8's entirely ;-)

Ed Wright · 02-26-2014, 05:15 PM

If we are including SS/GT cars, Bob Cruzen's car doesn't run too bad. He has been 9.0s.

Carguy49 · 02-26-2014, 07:20 PM

I am really impressed by all the responses to this thread. It was started by my good friend Danny Durham (Geerhead55) and has been a ton of fun. The original thread started as the fastest stocker pontiac and has gone into super stock also. I hope Danny doesn't mind the diversion, but we have had some great responses and seen some very quick times for pure pontiac race cars. It is so good to see that there are several people running pontiac power these days. Loving this thread. How about you, Danny???

Lynn - I totally understand about not hitting the index to hard. What is the problem with the weight of the Grand Am??

Ed - Why not include GT cars, they are a part of super stock. Just don't want to go any other direction. Thread started as fastest stocker.

Lynn A McCarty · 02-27-2014, 12:30 AM

When we decided to build a Grand Am the factory shipping weight was 2770. After it was built an unnamed person claimed the factory shipping weight was higher. Melba from GM who was the only person left after the auto crises re-upped the GM racing specification & got it changed back. It was changed again and everyone gave up. Now all the guys who spent money on Grand Ams have to run a higher weight than what GM SPECIFIED. The Big 3 do it all the time with the racing platforms by deleting air cond, etc, etc for cars designed for racing venues. As one can see with the new cars, none of them match the reg passenger car shipping weights. Maybe we will go after it again.

PONTIAC'S REVENGE · 02-27-2014, 12:54 AM

don't forget lynns GTCA ran 9.41 at a 141mph. his 60ft was bad on that run, when he puts it all together look out everybody!!!

some cars have pontiac engines in them but if theres a bowtie on the bumper we kinda ignore it... lol! when GM started putting the sbc in the firebirds it mad us all mad. sooooo we just changed them back in GT. We have Don Kennedy the father of GT superstock racing to thank for that! kind of ironic that you have to retrofit a pontiac engine into a pontiac body to run a real pontiac... well thats the way it goes.... its not whats correct, its what is legal racing fans...

i did like the corvette with a tunnelport Bill Foder use to run though, it was wicked fast in IHRA

stace

Geerhead55 · 02-27-2014, 03:20 AM

"Mind the diversion?" Not at all,, in over 60 years I've had more than a couple diversions,, this is just the latest, and one of the most educating.
Thanks to all who have responded, I've enjoyed reading this thread,, please continue if you will. I've got plenty of info to show my buddy who asked the Pontiac question of me.
Ron,, I guess you didn't "get it", but Bob's crack about the Drag-Paks was actually pretty funny.
I'm certainly hoping some of these fast Pontiacs,(and now Buicks too,"real or fake") will make the tow to Columbus in May for the Northern Class Nationals, an event I'm planning on attending. Thanks again everyone.
Danny Durham

02-26-2014, 05:15 PM	#3
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Quickest "Real" Pontiac If we are including SS/GT cars, Bob Cruzen's car doesn't run too bad. He has been 9.0s. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

02-26-2014, 07:20 PM	#4
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,971 Likes: 2,445 Liked 2,920 Times in 701 Posts	Re: Quickest "Real" Pontiac I am really impressed by all the responses to this thread. It was started by my good friend Danny Durham (Geerhead55) and has been a ton of fun. The original thread started as the fastest stocker pontiac and has gone into super stock also. I hope Danny doesn't mind the diversion, but we have had some great responses and seen some very quick times for pure pontiac race cars. It is so good to see that there are several people running pontiac power these days. Loving this thread. How about you, Danny??? Lynn - I totally understand about not hitting the index to hard. What is the problem with the weight of the Grand Am?? Ed - Why not include GT cars, they are a part of super stock. Just don't want to go any other direction. Thread started as fastest stocker. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends. Last edited by Carguy49; 02-26-2014 at 07:26 PM.

02-27-2014, 12:30 AM	#5
Lynn A McCarty Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Plainfield (INDY) Indiana Posts: 468 Likes: 1 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Quickest "Real" Pontiac When we decided to build a Grand Am the factory shipping weight was 2770. After it was built an unnamed person claimed the factory shipping weight was higher. Melba from GM who was the only person left after the auto crises re-upped the GM racing specification & got it changed back. It was changed again and everyone gave up. Now all the guys who spent money on Grand Ams have to run a higher weight than what GM SPECIFIED. The Big 3 do it all the time with the racing platforms by deleting air cond, etc, etc for cars designed for racing venues. As one can see with the new cars, none of them match the reg passenger car shipping weights. Maybe we will go after it again. __________________ Lynn A McCarty 3470 SS Last edited by Lynn A McCarty; 02-27-2014 at 09:25 AM.

02-27-2014, 12:54 AM	#6
PONTIAC'S REVENGE Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CARMEL, INDIANA Posts: 141 Likes: 69 Liked 48 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Quickest "Real" Pontiac don't forget lynns GTCA ran 9.41 at a 141mph. his 60ft was bad on that run, when he puts it all together look out everybody!!! some cars have pontiac engines in them but if theres a bowtie on the bumper we kinda ignore it... lol! when GM started putting the sbc in the firebirds it mad us all mad. sooooo we just changed them back in GT. We have Don Kennedy the father of GT superstock racing to thank for that! kind of ironic that you have to retrofit a pontiac engine into a pontiac body to run a real pontiac... well thats the way it goes.... its not whats correct, its what is legal racing fans... i did like the corvette with a tunnelport Bill Foder use to run though, it was wicked fast in IHRA stace Last edited by PONTIAC'S REVENGE; 02-27-2014 at 01:09 AM.

02-27-2014, 03:20 AM	#7
Geerhead55 VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 1,632 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Quickest "Real" Pontiac "Mind the diversion?" Not at all,, in over 60 years I've had more than a couple diversions,, this is just the latest, and one of the most educating. Thanks to all who have responded, I've enjoyed reading this thread,, please continue if you will. I've got plenty of info to show my buddy who asked the Pontiac question of me. Ron,, I guess you didn't "get it", but Bob's crack about the Drag-Paks was actually pretty funny. I'm certainly hoping some of these fast Pontiacs,(and now Buicks too,"real or fake") will make the tow to Columbus in May for the Northern Class Nationals, an event I'm planning on attending. Thanks again everyone. Danny Durham