1969 camaro hood

[Adger Smith]

I can tell you that back in the early 70's the spoilers were looked at on my 69 Z-28. Show up with out the rear and you didn't race. Take the front off and you didn't race. Both had to be on the car because it (Z-28) was a "package". If they were looking at "packages" back then they should be today.

[FINESPLINE]

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

I can tell you that back in the early 70's the spoilers were looked at on my 69 Z-28. Show up with out the rear and you didn't race. Take the front off and you didn't race. Both had to be on the car because it (Z-28) was a "package". If they were looking at "packages" back then they should be today.

Well the car I was looking at was a 1967 Camaro 396/375 SS car running B/S with front and rear spoilers that were not even available on a 67 car at all. I just dont understand how they make a big deal out of something insignificant and completely overlook something right in their face.

[Rich Biebel]

NHRA and their Tech people have always been somewhat arbitrary on enforcing some rules.

Around 1978-1979 my buddy and co-worker was running C/SM with his '69 Camaro. WCS race or maybe the SummerNat's It had a front spoiler but not the rear. He was told it had to have both or none by a guy we knew as Joe Tech. He was told by another Tech man at the top end after a run it was no problem....

Next time he went up to make a run....Joe Tech told him again to get the front spoiler off the car....Pretty ridiculous but not unusual for that guy....

I ran my '69 Camaro in SS/JA with the cowl hood....and a rear spoiler but no front spoiler and it was a 350/255......Just about every '69 out there had the cowl hood on it back then(1980-1982)......No one ever said a word to me about the hood or the rear spoiler and lack of one in front....

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

NHRA and their Tech people have always been somewhat arbitrary on enforcing some rules.

Around 1978-1979 my buddy and co-worker was running C/SM with his '69 Camaro. WCS race or maybe the SummerNat's It had a front spoiler but not the rear. He was told it had to have both or none by a guy we knew as Joe Tech. He was told by another Tech man at the top end after a run it was no problem....

Next time he went up to make a run....Joe Tech told him again to get the front spoiler off the car....Pretty ridiculous but not unusual for that guy....

I ran my '69 Camaro in SS/JA with the cowl hood....and a rear spoiler but no front spoiler and it was a 350/255......Just about every '69 out there had the cowl hood on it back then(1980-1982)......No one ever said a word to me about the hood or the rear spoiler and lack of one in front....

I worked with Joe D......I mean Joe Tech for a couple of years when he was with IHRA and found him to be a complete a** !

[Future Super Stocker]

Ok. Why not get a petition together among the Stock and Super Stockers and bring it to NHRA? There is strength in numbers. Before you know it the season will be over. The cost of these classes is out of sight, why shouldn't anyone have a say? The rules have been changed allowing after market cylinder heads and carburetors for some engines because of lack of original equipment availability. Why the big deal over hoods and spoilers?? Come on!!

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

The thing that has always bugged me about the way NHRA does things is that they, quite simply, won't use the wealth of available knowledge that they and their Racers have. Just look at the old pics that Tom Kasch and others have posted on here. Don't you think that if a 66/67 Street Hemi Belvidere had a hood scoop available that Jere Stahl would have had one? Look at all of the old 6-Pack factory Challengers and Cudas. Why did Landy's car have a Shaker hood? Why wasn't the 390 Ford a competitive car when they were new? And do you realize that EVERY 1971 and later carbureted 350 Chevy combustion chamber number is wrong EXCEPT for one? The 350 truck is correct. How, at this point can NHRA fix that? It's been wrong since 71 but that is what was submitted. None of the other Manufacturers have clean hands in this either.

Billy, just a question:

Since you appear to now a lot about these combinations, as regards to the Ford 390 cars, is the reason why they are fast now is the allowance of the Police Interceptor intake on the 1967 Mustangs?

If so, have you spoken to NHRA about this and have you also brought up with NHRA the issue about the Chevy 327 intake use on the 283 engines and the use of the aluminum intake and Holley carb on the 1970 - 1971 Cleveland engines?

[HandOverFist]

As usual, it isnt going to be NHRA nitpicking details such as spoilers as much as your fellow racers...likely someone with a grudge or just looking to monkee wrench a competitor. If something is clearly illegal and a competitor demands attention NHRA has no other recourse but to address it. Btw, the spoiler was not mandatory on Z-cars until late production models...early models had the option and it might have been the narrower "68 spoiler if installed.

[Billy Nees]

SSDiv6, you have a P.M.

[Crew Chief]

Its not just the aluminum Police intake on the 67 Mustang. I checked the specs and found that the larger 428 Cobra Jet Holley is allowed. Thats quite a jump from the original 600 CFM.

[RJ Sledge]

Just remember....."Cheaters never prosper!"

RJ