77/78 ford ltd/ mercury marquis 460 - Page 7

Gary Smith · 12-30-2013, 01:21 PM

We parted out a '78 Grand Marquis back in the early 90s, I told dad to hang on to the motor until we could determine if it was worth anything, found out it was a junk combo for GT classes, so we threw it all away. Heard the heads were "unworkable" and shortblock assy was way too heavy. Even the local marina saw no boat anchor value in them. Please tell me they're still not worth anything.

Dave Noll · 12-30-2013, 04:59 PM

The 78 is rated @ 320 & has a full point less compression. I would favor the 74. Again, Vic is probably the only one actually building one of these boats. I think what started this thread was the recent HP adjustments from NHRA, They dropped 10 off the 77/78 in stock AND the GT version of the motor. Somebody is running one in SS/GT. ?????

Ford 460 197-202 330 320 77-78 SS/GT

This thread changed my mind about having my tired 74 hauled off.

Dave Gantz · 12-30-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by goinbroke2

Friend had a new 76 grand marquis/460 when I was a kid and took me for a drive. Stopped and torqued it up then floored it. Shoved me back in the seat and held me there until he let off at 120mph. I fell in love with it right then, I was 12 or so. Looking back it probably took a mile or two, but it was awesome at the time.

It's all relative, I suppose. A few years before that, I drove a 66 Catalina with just a 389 2 bbl. if power braked as you describe, it (and many similar cars) would smoke the tires until they blew up. The first round of smog motored (such as that Marquis) cars were terrible.

vic guilmino · 01-01-2014, 03:47 PM

i am looking for 2 motorcraft carbs, 4300-d and a 4350
i know nothing about which year is the best
4300-d is for the ss tbird
and the 4350 is for the whale (ltd)

Dave Noll · 01-01-2014, 04:56 PM

I've got a Motorcraft 4bbl (mostly) square bore carb. 1.56/1.68 1.25/AV

Billy Nees · 01-01-2014, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vic guilmino

and the 4350 is for the whale (ltd)

Ya know, seeing as you brought it up, I can't figure out just what to call the LTD. I've pretty well narrowed it down to two choices, "Great White"(it's white) or "Moby, Vic".

Jack Matyas · 01-01-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know, seeing as you brought it up, I can't figure out just what to call the LTD. I've pretty well narrowed it down to two choices, "Great White"(it's white) or "Moby, Vic".

Wasn't the famous great white whale called ......Namu.

PS - And Billy its a good thing you and Vic are 'old school' naming the car ...........

The Hawk · 01-01-2014, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know, seeing as you brought it up, I can't figure out just what to call the LTD. I've pretty well narrowed it down to two choices, "Great White"(it's white) or "Moby, Vic".

Moby,Vic ! I love it!

vic guilmino · 01-01-2014, 07:31 PM

ok
this is going to be the heavys car ever?????????????
5000 for p/sa

farmco r/sa · 01-01-2014, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vic guilmino

ok
this is going to be the heavys car ever?????????????
5000 for p/sa

that's awesome/ LOL. looking forward to seeing it!

12-30-2013, 01:21 PM	#61
Gary Smith Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 807 Likes: 7 Liked 76 Times in 24 Posts	Re: 77/78 ford ltd/ mercury marquis 460 We parted out a '78 Grand Marquis back in the early 90s, I told dad to hang on to the motor until we could determine if it was worth anything, found out it was a junk combo for GT classes, so we threw it all away. Heard the heads were "unworkable" and shortblock assy was way too heavy. Even the local marina saw no boat anchor value in them. Please tell me they're still not worth anything. __________________ Gary Smith "another broke racer spectating"

12-30-2013, 04:59 PM	#62
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 696 Likes: 2,279 Liked 220 Times in 105 Posts	Re: 77/78 ford ltd/ mercury marquis 460 The 78 is rated @ 320 & has a full point less compression. I would favor the 74. Again, Vic is probably the only one actually building one of these boats. I think what started this thread was the recent HP adjustments from NHRA, They dropped 10 off the 77/78 in stock AND the GT version of the motor. Somebody is running one in SS/GT. ????? Ford 460 197-202 330 320 77-78 SS/GT This thread changed my mind about having my tired 74 hauled off. __________________ Dave Noll, E/FS ,L/SA 6526

01-01-2014, 03:47 PM	#64
vic guilmino Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: wv Posts: 882 Likes: 42 Liked 56 Times in 21 Posts	Re: 77/78 ford ltd/ mercury marquis 460 i am looking for 2 motorcraft carbs, 4300-d and a 4350 i know nothing about which year is the best 4300-d is for the ss tbird and the 4350 is for the whale (ltd) __________________ Vic Guilmino 1129 STK

01-01-2014, 04:56 PM	#65
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 696 Likes: 2,279 Liked 220 Times in 105 Posts	Re: 77/78 ford ltd/ mercury marquis 460 I've got a Motorcraft 4bbl (mostly) square bore carb. 1.56/1.68 1.25/AV __________________ Dave Noll, E/FS ,L/SA 6526 Last edited by Dave Noll; 01-01-2014 at 06:21 PM.

01-01-2014, 07:31 PM	#69
vic guilmino Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: wv Posts: 882 Likes: 42 Liked 56 Times in 21 Posts	Re: 77/78 ford ltd/ mercury marquis 460 ok this is going to be the heavys car ever????????????? 5000 for p/sa __________________ Vic Guilmino 1129 STK