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Old 12-11-2013, 11:26 PM   #1
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Pure Stock will bring in the younger crowd if you start Classifying the new American cars and allow Imports to race. I get an email every couple weeks from someone asking about Pure Stock.

You want the younger crowd. They are buying the little cars. On test and tune days they are out in force. Add Stock Class Record at local track again and you will see interest.

The issue is not young people not wanting to race in Stock.
It is the entrenched American Car only racer community preventing it from happening.

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Old 12-12-2013, 01:30 PM   #2
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Pure Stock will bring in the younger crowd if you start Classifying the new American cars and allow Imports to race. I get an email every couple weeks from someone asking about Pure Stock.

You want the younger crowd. They are buying the little cars. On test and tune days they are out in force. Add Stock Class Record at local track again and you will see interest.

The issue is not young people not wanting to race in Stock.
It is the entrenched American Car only racer community preventing it from happening.

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Those young people you see on test and tune days are not driving stockers. They can run tens in their ricer for less money then they would have in a 15 second pure stocker. It's all about cheap boost.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:40 PM   #3
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Those young people you see on test and tune days are not driving stockers. They can run tens in their ricer for less money then they would have in a 15 second pure stocker. It's all about cheap boost.
You have but to look at the Stock Car Classification guide...there are no slots for their cars.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:27 PM   #4
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Default Re: Today's cost to build a stocker ?

Talking about young people is a bit of a tangent but, there are lots of "young" guys dropping HUGE freaking money into cars. I agree that the guide has to be updated, but not neccessarily to include imports(Honda and mitsu are already there), but to include everything built.
Here is the guide, look at the latest year and more importantly, note that in the last few years the only vehicle available is the company's flagship. (ford and chev both go to 2013 but only for cobra jet and camaro, dodge goes to 2011 but only challenger)
AMC latest year 84
Buick 1997
Caddy 1990
Chev 2013 (camaro only)
Chrysler 2004
Dodge 2011 (challenger only)
Ford 2013 (mustang only)
Honda 2007
Mitsubishi 1991
Olds 2004
Opel 1974
Plymouth 2000
Pontiac 2008
Saturn 2008

So, you want to build a stocker? Either pony up $$$ for a new CJ or camaro/challenger or buy an "old" car (2008 or older) and restore it then build it.
THAT is the problem as I see it.
How about a new ford/chev/dodge fwd or awd 4/6cyl? The common question when trying to convince people to try is "where would my car fit"? Well, unless it's in the guide, IT DON'T! Maybe somebody doesn't want to build a 2009 fusion or cobalt, but would it really hurt to list all the vehicles?

I see a 74 torino for sale, I look in the guide to see how it fits etc. If it was like this back then, it wouldn't even be in the guide!

Now, back on topic...I have no idea what it will cost to build my crate but it will be as cheap as possible, for better or worse. (probably worse! LOL)
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:37 PM   #5
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You have but to look at the Stock Car Classification guide...there are no slots for their cars.
Thank you..
Well said !

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Old 12-12-2013, 03:28 PM   #6
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Kid don't race or do outdoor stuff ..like ride a bike go play some ball .They rather play stupid video games ..also if you don't buy it for the kid a car they wont race.
By the way Dan nhra tried running the jap cars in there own ..Dead JUST like PURE STOCK. ... JUST BUILD A REAL STOCKER...waters warm
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Old 12-12-2013, 03:45 PM   #7
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Kid don't race or do outdoor stuff ..like ride a bike go play some ball .They rather play stupid video games ..also if you don't buy it for the kid a car they wont race.
By the way Dan nhra tried running the jap cars in there own ..Dead JUST like PURE STOCK. ... JUST BUILD A REAL STOCKER...waters warm
Pretty broad statement there. My niece is a rock climber and I'm pretty sure she could beat both of us down...at the same time lol. Btw, I'm sixtey years old and I play video games on the pc.

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Old 12-12-2013, 04:32 PM   #8
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Kid don't race or do outdoor stuff ..like ride a bike go play some ball .They rather play stupid video games ..also if you don't buy it for the kid a car they wont race.
By the way Dan nhra tried running the jap cars in there own ..Dead JUST like PURE STOCK. ... JUST BUILD A REAL STOCKER...waters warm
James is correct. All counts.
Ricer thing died in a short length of time. Low car counts, and like a second spread in qualifying sheets. Their qualifying sheets always drew a lot of chuckles.
Best part was the wet tee shirt contests. LOL!
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Old 12-12-2013, 04:49 PM   #9
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Always thought my son would build his 70 Nova into a stocker but he is a dirt track racer. He says more fun and ALOT cheaper. He says I'm crazy with how much I spend on racing. Only way he will be drag racing is if I let him behind the wheel of mine.
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Old 12-12-2013, 03:32 PM   #10
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Many don't like a lot of rules. Test n tune night when I'm testing something several kids with F body cars come over to look at it and ask questions. "Why don't you...." Fill in the blank. I tell them rules don't allow that. Invariably they will say "You have too many rules, not enough freedom to "mod" ( internet speak) my car."
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