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Old 12-11-2013, 04:22 PM   #1
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We all race the cars we do for different reasons. I had a lower class car years ago. We ran R/SA. You might build and keep it running for less than some other combos because you don't have to worry about heads up in the eliminator. I being competitive as I am wanted to have the fastest one in the country. So I spent the money and worked hard and ended up with one of the faster ones. Then when it was time to sell it not many people wanted an R/SA wagon. Even though I spent the same money on the drive train that others did in higher class cars. Sold the car for about 1/2 what it would have been worth if it was a 69 Camaro. So the moral of this story for me was if I'm going to spend the money on the drive train I better put it something that has value body wise. Barry
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Old 12-11-2013, 04:51 PM   #2
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We all race the cars we do for different reasons. I had a lower class car years ago. We ran R/SA. You might build and keep it running for less than some other combos because you don't have to worry about heads up in the eliminator. Then when it was time to sell it not many people wanted an R/SA wagon. Even though I spent the same money on the drive train that others did in higher class cars. Sold the car for about 1/2 what it would have been worth if it was a 69 Camaro. Barry
Ahh, but Barry, it got you involved. And instead of talking about what it costs to build a red,69 BB Camaro we should all be trying to figure out how to get young people involved and talking about 125k COPOs and 60k antiques ain't gonna do it.
I can't say for sure but you probably started in R/SA because that's where your pocketbook and knowledge would let you get a start.
We, as the elder statesmen (wow) in this sport need to try and convince young people that they don't NEED to start with a second under CC/SA car to get involved in Stock and SS or there soon isn't going to be a Stock and SS.
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Old 12-11-2013, 05:23 PM   #3
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We all race the cars we do for different reasons. I had a lower class car years ago. We ran R/SA. You might build and keep it running for less than some other combos because you don't have to worry about heads up in the eliminator. I being competitive as I am wanted to have the fastest one in the country. So I spent the money and worked hard and ended up with one of the faster ones. Then when it was time to sell it not many people wanted an R/SA wagon. Even though I spent the same money on the drive train that others did in higher class cars. Sold the car for about 1/2 what it would have been worth if it was a 69 Camaro. So the moral of this story for me was if I'm going to spend the money on the drive train I better put it something that has value body wise. Barry
X2 - Resale value can bring the (final) cost down when you sell the car. I keep telling my wife that as I try to find enough money to finish a '67 Shelby.
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Old 12-11-2013, 07:44 PM   #4
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Doesn't Koski have a U/S mopar for sale?
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:07 PM   #5
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If you can do a lot of the work yourself you can cut the costs down a ton.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:04 PM   #6
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My attempt at building a stocker(89 mustang) is about 30% complete and I have about 7500 in it (car was 600 of that). I expect to have another 3500 in it just to get it running and on the track for some testing. I'm hoping to be .30 under index with this set up. And this thing is U G L Y.

I would expect to sink another 10-15kin it years 2 and 3 assuming all goes well for a stouter motor, paint, race trans/clutch etc.

I'm pretty cheap and will do as much as possible myself, and it looks like 25k might get me a so-so looking car that's not super competitive.

But, I wanna go racing!!
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:18 PM   #7
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I have no doubt I could have picked up a used stocker for a fraction of what I paid to build my F/SA car.....but for me this was a bucket list thing. I also have no doubt that if I had participated more in the build I could have reduced the cost somewhat. But after hearing the rest of you it sounds like my spend was not totally out of line. We were able to go rounds at every race attended, and the equipment was never the reason for an early round departure.

No matter what you spend, whether it's a 5,000 actual mile 69 Z/28, Original Cobra Jet, or my 40 year old $1500 beater, you still have to DRIVE the thing to get maximum enjoyment out of it. Truthfully, I would have had just as much fun in a beater if I had driven it to the winners circle a few times!!!
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:26 PM   #8
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Pure Stock will bring in the younger crowd if you start Classifying the new American cars and allow Imports to race. I get an email every couple weeks from someone asking about Pure Stock.

You want the younger crowd. They are buying the little cars. On test and tune days they are out in force. Add Stock Class Record at local track again and you will see interest.

The issue is not young people not wanting to race in Stock.
It is the entrenched American Car only racer community preventing it from happening.

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Old 12-12-2013, 01:30 PM   #9
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Pure Stock will bring in the younger crowd if you start Classifying the new American cars and allow Imports to race. I get an email every couple weeks from someone asking about Pure Stock.

You want the younger crowd. They are buying the little cars. On test and tune days they are out in force. Add Stock Class Record at local track again and you will see interest.

The issue is not young people not wanting to race in Stock.
It is the entrenched American Car only racer community preventing it from happening.

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Those young people you see on test and tune days are not driving stockers. They can run tens in their ricer for less money then they would have in a 15 second pure stocker. It's all about cheap boost.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:40 PM   #10
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Those young people you see on test and tune days are not driving stockers. They can run tens in their ricer for less money then they would have in a 15 second pure stocker. It's all about cheap boost.
You have but to look at the Stock Car Classification guide...there are no slots for their cars.
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