DOT and towing race cars

HIGHOCTAIN2000 · 12-02-2013, 12:21 PM

What good does a over length permit do if your over 10000gvw

Stock726 · 12-02-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HIGHOCTAIN2000

What good does a over length permit do if your over 10000gvw

Yeah, I always thought the class A rule was 26001lbs. and above?

Sounds like some of these states are making up their own rules.

Or, are the rules different from a state highway to Interstate??

Jeff Teuton · 12-02-2013, 01:15 PM

Nationally 10,000 + makes you subject to DOT regs. If you have a pickup and trailer, I suggest you license the truck to cover the weight of both. That will probably get you out. Over 26000 is another subject, but most aren't that heavy. A dualie has about 11,000 GVW and most two axle trailers are between 10000 and 14000. License for what you weigh, not for combined GVW. That makes you legal as far as weight and it's cheaper. Length is state to state and so the confusion. I carry a copy of the DOT regs that clearly says cars, boats, horses not for commercial use are exempt. Most officers don't know this. The reg book is about 1 1/2 inches thick, and the exemption is one paragraph. 390(F) (3). You can race for money as long as you (if you win any) declare it as ordinary income ususlly a 1099 from where you won it. Most motor home licenses have no weight attached to them, but a motor home titled as ABC Racing, LLC is a commercial vehicle. You have no leg to stand on. Also an issue is that toters (w/fifth wheel) are not recognized in some states. The fifth wheel triggers all sorts of things. Remember, a gray area allows you to drive off. Have enough to create a gray area. Just so you know how screwed up this is, there are three different functions. DOT, Weights and Measures, and CDL. Don't you just love it.

Rick Bailey · 12-02-2013, 01:43 PM

Well Jeff , please help a dummy out ( since you have a understanding ) I have a 27` class c and pull a 32` triple for a lenght of 64 1/2 ft. I have 1 dragster and a golf cart or at times 2 dragsters.... no cart.

Which regs, or rules would cover the above .
And I have a non-cdl b.

THANK YOU SIR !

Rick Bailey · 12-02-2013, 01:51 PM

Well Jeff , please help a dummy out ( since you have a understanding ) I have a 27` class c and pull a 32` triple for a lenght of 64 1/2 ft. I have 1 dragster and a golf cart or at times 2 dragsters.... no cart.

Which regs, or rules would cover the above .
And I have a non-cdl b. Illinois

THANK YOU SIR !

Dave Crouchet · 12-02-2013, 03:28 PM

Just curious, does all states require a brake tag for ur trailer. in Louisiana there is a law that has been around for a while and they have been cracking down on people, especially the boaters.

Run to Rund · 12-02-2013, 08:43 PM

Each state has its own laws. Iowa is unusual in combining truck and trailer when they set the break point at 10,001 pounds. Most places, either can be up to 10K. Florida gets upset with a trailer over 28' long. NJ has a 45' combined length limit, iirc.

Ed Wright · 12-02-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Crouchet

Just curious, does all states require a brake tag for ur trailer. in Louisiana there is a law that has been around for a while and they have been cracking down on people, especially the boaters.

What is a brake tag?

Rob Petrie E395 · 12-02-2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

What is a brake tag?

I think its like a state inspection but not a very through one from what I have been told.

Dave Crouchet · 12-03-2013, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

What is a brake tag?

Ed, like rob mentioned it is an inspection sticker. and yes he is right it in some cases is not a thorough process. some cities or parishes require u to bring ur vehicle to the inspection station, and in others u just roll up to a gas station and roll on out.

12-02-2013, 12:21 PM	#1
HIGHOCTAIN2000 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 27 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: DOT and towing race cars What good does a over length permit do if your over 10000gvw

12-02-2013, 01:15 PM	#3
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: DOT and towing race cars Nationally 10,000 + makes you subject to DOT regs. If you have a pickup and trailer, I suggest you license the truck to cover the weight of both. That will probably get you out. Over 26000 is another subject, but most aren't that heavy. A dualie has about 11,000 GVW and most two axle trailers are between 10000 and 14000. License for what you weigh, not for combined GVW. That makes you legal as far as weight and it's cheaper. Length is state to state and so the confusion. I carry a copy of the DOT regs that clearly says cars, boats, horses not for commercial use are exempt. Most officers don't know this. The reg book is about 1 1/2 inches thick, and the exemption is one paragraph. 390(F) (3). You can race for money as long as you (if you win any) declare it as ordinary income ususlly a 1099 from where you won it. Most motor home licenses have no weight attached to them, but a motor home titled as ABC Racing, LLC is a commercial vehicle. You have no leg to stand on. Also an issue is that toters (w/fifth wheel) are not recognized in some states. The fifth wheel triggers all sorts of things. Remember, a gray area allows you to drive off. Have enough to create a gray area. Just so you know how screwed up this is, there are three different functions. DOT, Weights and Measures, and CDL. Don't you just love it. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

12-02-2013, 01:43 PM	#4
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: DOT and towing race cars Well Jeff , please help a dummy out ( since you have a understanding ) I have a 27` class c and pull a 32` triple for a lenght of 64 1/2 ft. I have 1 dragster and a golf cart or at times 2 dragsters.... no cart. Which regs, or rules would cover the above . And I have a non-cdl b. THANK YOU SIR ! __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC

12-02-2013, 01:51 PM	#5
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: DOT and towing race cars Well Jeff , please help a dummy out ( since you have a understanding ) I have a 27` class c and pull a 32` triple for a lenght of 64 1/2 ft. I have 1 dragster and a golf cart or at times 2 dragsters.... no cart. Which regs, or rules would cover the above . And I have a non-cdl b. Illinois THANK YOU SIR ! __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC

12-02-2013, 03:28 PM	#6
Dave Crouchet Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: where the coonass!s are Posts: 98 Likes: 2 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: DOT and towing race cars Just curious, does all states require a brake tag for ur trailer. in Louisiana there is a law that has been around for a while and they have been cracking down on people, especially the boaters. __________________ *David Crouchet*

12-02-2013, 08:43 PM	#7
Run to Rund Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 583 Likes: 8 Liked 54 Times in 27 Posts	Re: DOT and towing race cars Each state has its own laws. Iowa is unusual in combining truck and trailer when they set the break point at 10,001 pounds. Most places, either can be up to 10K. Florida gets upset with a trailer over 28' long. NJ has a 45' combined length limit, iirc.