Selling cars on racing junk - scamming

[Ian Hill]

I have placed my second car for sale on racing junk (2000 firebird stocker) and am up to 5 guys trying to pull scams through paypal. All callers are out of California, all want to pay through pay pal, that need a "verified"account, so this means an account tied to a credit card, so if you scam them they can lock up your account and credit card until they get their money back.

the last two guys wanted to send $1750 extra, over the price of the car i am selling to cover frieght. as soon as the money comes in they want you to forward the money to a frieght company of their choice. then i asume once the money is transfered theyd back out of the deal and go through some paypal deal where theyd get their money back. this third guy tried it today, i was just going to keep his $1750, i got three credit cards so F him! I cant beieve these jack asses. Pretty clear who they are, email only, or text only and have no clue about the class they are buying the car for. i have sold many cars and have yet bought or sold any car without calling and talking to the owner.

the last two guys were named Dave, one had a 241 area code and todays was 801, but both came across my phone as from California. both textd me and niether would answer their phone when i called.

Sorry for the bs session, just frustrating. its hard enough dealing with all the guys that want to trade let alone thining you finaly have someone with cash only to find out is the same old $1750 transportation scam.

Be for warned.

Ian

[ON TIME]

Nothing new. This has been going on for years.

[ALMACK]

Yeah, same ol' story.
The way I understand how the scam works is like this:

They add a little extra for shipping, send a cashier's check and then when the shipping guy shows up ( within 48 hours), you give the shipper cash for shipping and load the car.

A few days later you learn the cashier's check was bogus.

The "shipper" was his scam buddy as well.

[Ed Wright]

I listed mine here in the cars for sale, racing junk was suggested to me yesterday. Guess I need to check it out. I would never sell through paypal. It has been hacked too many times. Somebody buys mine will show up with $100.00 bills, or the check will clear the bank before the car leaves. Lots of stories about Craig's list also.

[joespanova]

I sold my classic 1961 VW Beetle ragtop to a guy in the Virgin Islands on EBay.......I told him cash only.......by chance he had a family member who lives in Atlanta who delivered the cash and met them AT MY BANK where the money was confirmed and deposited on the spot.
This is the ONLY WAY I will sell anything of significant value.

[Rich Biebel]

I have used RacingJunk for years to buy and sell and never had a single problem.

I have bought and sold race cars and parts and aside from dealing with a lot of tire kickers and lowball offer makers....it's a great place. I have never had any scammers contact me about anything I have advertised and all transactions went fine....

I have also used EBAY with good success.....but prefer RJ

Lots of exposure and not a big cost.

[Rich Biebel]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I listed mine here in the cars for sale, racing junk was suggested to me yesterday. Guess I need to check it out. I would never sell through paypal. It has been hacked too many times. Somebody buys mine will show up with $100.00 bills, or the check will clear the bank before the car leaves. Lots of stories about Craig's list also.

Ed....I have used PayPal many times with zero problems......My only complaint is the cut they get for the sale and for the check they send you if you want to get paid that way.

I sold a Ron's fuel injection unit in Sept.
R-J ad.....took about 1-2 weeks to sell and to complete the deal and the buyer was fairly local.....he knew people I know so it made it a lot easier. He sent me a check in the mail......There are lots of honest people still out there and racers in general are very honorable people.....That has been my experience.....

[Sean Marconette]

I have only had this problem when selling items on craigslist. Someone wants to give you a higher price than you are asking and pay by Paypal, or something other than cash, the buyers have not been local. If it sounds too good, it is not going to be a good deal for the seller. Always an email and no other means of correspondence. The bad part is it's not just one of these emails, it is several from multiple crooks playing this game.

If someone wants to buy your car bad enough they will drive to see it and buy it on the spot. A down payment to hold it before they can come pick it up is another option showing good faith they want it. Again a written contract with stipulations that if the item is not what they thought it was they get their money back, if they fail to pick up the item within xx days they forfeit their deposit. Our society is not the most honest, so protect yourself, and make sure you have a leg to stand on if you have to go to court. Judge Judy 101. Written documentation and signatures are important to have a case.

Good luck, one more reason I hate selling anything, all the BS that you have to deal with.

Sean

[Ian Hill]

i have bought and sold many engines and parts on racing junk, all with issues, but when i lested my 68 Camaro stocker, and now the firebird these guys show up!

I can handle low ballers or guys that want to trade cause in todays market, sometimes its the only way people can move up into something they've always wanted. But these guys paying "extra".....i am going to come up with a scam to scam the scammers, when i do i will post it here. if there's a way to make an easy $1750 in am in!

Ian

[Lew Silverman]

"There are some people who will pat you on the back with one hand, and pick your pocket with the other! And it could happen to YOU!".....Captain John Braddock, Racket Squad.