.031 dykes

Ed McLawhorn Jr. · 11-06-2013, 09:57 PM

Need contact or company to buy extra set of .031 dykes for 3.94 bore on 283 sbc. Did not find any info on Total Seal site. Already have one set (been laying on shelf for years) in motor.....just want extra set since they are not as available as years ago. Need low tension ring, not the "look a like" (standard tension compression ring cut to look like a dyke). Working on restoring old super stock motor for local st/ss combo's. thanks

Ed

Alan Roehrich · 11-07-2013, 01:33 AM

Speed Pro still sells some of those. For the bore size you have, the P/N is PB-18PF-002 -65. If they have them.

Outside of that, call Keith Jones, or Kevin Studeker at Total Seal, tell them I sent you. Total Seal no longer suggests those rings, but they may be able to make or source them.

The last set I bought had to be 7-8 years ago, in 4.320" bore size. They worked for me, despite what everyone said, that engine ran. But I don't use them now.

Ed McLawhorn Jr. · 11-07-2013, 05:29 PM

Alan, thanks for info. I know the dykes are ancient but, for the moment a new set of pistons are not in the plan and I will have to use what I have for a while. Just wanting an extra set since they are getting so hard to find.

Ed

Bill Edgeworth · 11-07-2013, 06:49 PM

Ed,

Have you considered using spacers with thin rings like most of us in stock use?

Total seal probably has them in stock. I know its a Chevy size ring they sell me for my Pontiac 350's that I file to fit and its almost the same bore as your motor.

Rich Biebel · 11-07-2013, 08:00 PM

.031" Dykes top rings were what almost everyone used in SS engines back in the '70's and '80's

The pistons have ring grooves cut for those rings and unless the grooves are cut to fit something else.....he would have to use the Dykes ring...

I used them on flat top 350 engines with the ring .050" down......and no second ring on one set of pistons....back in the early 1980's....

Alan Roehrich · 11-07-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed McLawhorn Jr.

Alan, thanks for info. I know the dykes are ancient but, for the moment a new set of pistons are not in the plan and I will have to use what I have for a while. Just wanting an extra set since they are getting so hard to find.

Ed

Glad to help Ed. Speed Pro seems to be killing off a lot of those older numbers.

Ed McLawhorn Jr. · 11-07-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Edgeworth

Ed,

Have you considered using spacers with thin rings like most of us in stock use?

Total seal probably has them in stock. I know its a Chevy size ring they sell me for my Pontiac 350's that I file to fit and its almost the same bore as your motor.

Bill, yea RIch is correct. My pistons are early-mid 80's vintage with no 2nd ring. It would not be viable for me to spend money for machining on these ancient puppies. Wish it was that simple!

Ed

Bill Edgeworth · 11-07-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed McLawhorn Jr.

Bill, yea RIch is correct. My pistons are early-mid 80's vintage with no 2nd ring. It would not be viable for me to spend money for machining on these ancient puppies. Wish it was that simple!

Ed

I have never used dykes guess I'm much younger than some of you LOL.

But correct me if I'm wrong; I thought dykes were quite expensive?
Would rings+ spacers+ machining cost more than a set of dykes?

Alan Roehrich · 11-08-2013, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Edgeworth

I have never used dykes guess I'm much younger than some of you LOL.

But correct me if I'm wrong; I thought dykes were quite expensive?
Would rings+ spacers+ machining cost more than a set of dykes?

Far more. And more than his pistons are worth, as he said. The only place I'd trust to do the machine work is Rebco, and I'm pretty sure it would be very expensive. Ring groove tolerances are held far closer than 99.9999999% of shops can measure, below 0.0000".

Dykes rings are not that expensive, they're just relatively outdated.

Adger Smith · 11-08-2013, 08:08 AM

Alan,
Don't call the ring that most A/fuel teams use "Out Dated"
Why didn't you just say they aren't used by most S/SS engine builders?

11-06-2013, 09:57 PM	#1
Ed McLawhorn Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 306 Likes: 3 Liked 19 Times in 17 Posts	.031 dykes Need contact or company to buy extra set of .031 dykes for 3.94 bore on 283 sbc. Did not find any info on Total Seal site. Already have one set (been laying on shelf for years) in motor.....just want extra set since they are not as available as years ago. Need low tension ring, not the "look a like" (standard tension compression ring cut to look like a dyke). Working on restoring old super stock motor for local st/ss combo's. thanks Ed

11-07-2013, 01:33 AM	#2
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,123 Likes: 1,580 Liked 1,863 Times in 422 Posts	Re: .031 dykes Speed Pro still sells some of those. For the bore size you have, the P/N is PB-18PF-002 -65. If they have them. Outside of that, call Keith Jones, or Kevin Studeker at Total Seal, tell them I sent you. Total Seal no longer suggests those rings, but they may be able to make or source them. The last set I bought had to be 7-8 years ago, in 4.320" bore size. They worked for me, despite what everyone said, that engine ran. But I don't use them now. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

11-07-2013, 05:29 PM	#3
Ed McLawhorn Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 306 Likes: 3 Liked 19 Times in 17 Posts	Re: .031 dykes Alan, thanks for info. I know the dykes are ancient but, for the moment a new set of pistons are not in the plan and I will have to use what I have for a while. Just wanting an extra set since they are getting so hard to find. Ed

11-07-2013, 06:49 PM	#4
Bill Edgeworth Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 258 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: .031 dykes Ed, Have you considered using spacers with thin rings like most of us in stock use? Total seal probably has them in stock. I know its a Chevy size ring they sell me for my Pontiac 350's that I file to fit and its almost the same bore as your motor. __________________ Bill Edgeworth 6471 STK

11-07-2013, 08:00 PM	#5
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,315 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: .031 dykes .031" Dykes top rings were what almost everyone used in SS engines back in the '70's and '80's The pistons have ring grooves cut for those rings and unless the grooves are cut to fit something else.....he would have to use the Dykes ring... I used them on flat top 350 engines with the ring .050" down......and no second ring on one set of pistons....back in the early 1980's.... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

11-08-2013, 08:08 AM	#10
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: .031 dykes Alan, Don't call the ring that most A/fuel teams use "Out Dated" Why didn't you just say they aren't used by most S/SS engine builders? __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)