Hagerstown S-S/S Combo or Pro E T ? ? ?

[Chris1529]

Originally Posted by novassdude

I do have one question. If you allow cars from these other series how do you come up with a index for them? I have no dog in the fight just curios.

The N/SS cars that run the Tri-State S/SS series, or that have run the Buckeye S/SS series are all very nice cars. The owners keep them up very well. Alot of the cars are either ex super stock cars from back in the "day", or are re-creations of super stock cars.

I don't think it is that much of a stretch to allow them to race in the combo's.

In the Tri-State S/SS association races, there is no qualifying off the index anyway, so the fact that there is no "index" for them is not an issue.

Jack has been at Mike's Hagerstown race. I think it was two years ago with his Chieftan Firebird stocker.

The weather looks good this year. I'm coming for both days. Was working after Superstorm Sandy last year.

[novassdude]

Originally Posted by Chris1529

The N/SS cars that run the Tri-State S/SS series, or that have run the Buckeye S/SS series are all very nice cars. The owners keep them up very well. Alot of the cars are either ex super stock cars from back in the "day", or are re-creations of super stock cars.

I don't think it is that much of a stretch to allow them to race in the combo's.

In the Tri-State S/SS association races, there is no qualifying off the index anyway, so the fact that there is no "index" for them is not an issue.

Jack has been at Mike's Hagerstown race. I think it was two years ago with his Chieftan Firebird stocker.

The weather looks good this year. I'm coming for both days. Was working after Superstorm Sandy last year.

In my opionion if there is no qualifying off the index and I assume no heads up. Then it is not a class race. It is a bracket race that only class cars are allowed to enter.

[1320racer]

already stated in post #28

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by novassdude

In my opionion if there is no qualifying off the index and I assume no heads up. Then it is not a class race. It is a bracket race that only class cars are allowed to enter.

You are really missing the point of these type races. They are a different format than the standard National or divisional meet. They are mostly the local racers from all of the different sanctions and usually a combo event. They are friendly and fun events that you don't have to travel far to attend. I can tell you that the racing is second to none at these events. Rounds happen very quickly so the action is non stop. I urge you to attend one of these type of races and your mind will change. We have several "Hardheaded" racers in our area that don't attend our association races. They don't know what they are missing.

[Mark Yacavone]

I guess I pretty much agree with the majority here..
As a promoter of S/SS races,,, you do what you gotta do to build up the purse.
First question I'm always asked it "What does it pay to win?"
I totally understand Mike's position.

I've raced with the N/SS guys...Nice cars ...good racing,.. but to me , it seems like there's something missing between the rounds...You can't go ask someone how they finesse a 2bbl combination to run in the summertime...or what low gear gives the best 60', etc.
But that's just me. I enjoy the technical, hands- on aspect of real S/SS racing.

On the other hand , Jacko is right about Lee Sherman..He hated the .90 cars
He said it was like giving professional baseball teams 4 outs in an inning..
What would happen to the quality of the teams?


Carry on....

[novassdude]

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

You are really missing the point of these type races. They are a different format than the standard National or divisional meet. They are mostly the local racers from all of the different sanctions and usually a combo event. They are friendly and fun events that you don't have to travel far to attend. I can tell you that the racing is second to none at these events. Rounds happen very quickly so the action is non stop. I urge you to attend one of these type of races and your mind will change. We have several "Hardheaded" racers in our area that don't attend our association races. They don't know what they are missing.

Not to argue but I don't think I did miss any point. I have no issue with combos. I have run some. Luckily the ones in my area have qualifying and heads up. Should I get my car back out I will be heading to the combos ever chance I get. I would rather go to those than any national. But in my opinion they should have to qualify and have heads up to be considered class races. Otherwise please explain what the difference is between this race and a bracket race.

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by novassdude

Not to argue but I don't think I did miss any point. I have no issue with combos. I have run some. Luckily the ones in my area have qualifying and heads up. Should I get my car back out I will be heading to the combos ever chance I get. I would rather go to those than any national. But in my opinion they should have to qualify and have heads up to be considered class races. Otherwise please explain what the difference is between this race and a bracket race.

Okay,lets say you got your car back out to actually race it.You head to a COMBO race and it turns out that there are so many cars in different classes there,you find out that you are the ONLY one racing in your class.

I assume you will then put it back on the trailer and go home because there is no chance for ever having a heads up race?

[novassdude]

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

Okay,lets say you got your car back out to actually race it.You head to a COMBO race and it turns out that there are so many cars in different classes there,you find out that you are the ONLY one racing in your class.

I assume you will then put it back on the trailer and go home because there is no chance for ever having a heads up race?

Sorry there is a big difference between not having them and only racing if you can have one. Believe me it is not that I would be out looking for a heads up because I would probably loose. But qualifying and heads up possibilities is what seperates class racing from bracket racing.
Ok I am done now as I said it is my opionion that you need qualifying and heads up for class racing to seperate it from bracket racing. You are all free too have your own opionion.

Not that I have any issues with bracket racing I did alot of it.

[race watcher]

Good point Dude.

Class race, I like that concept.