Another close race?

Andys dad · 10-03-2013, 08:57 AM

Is this real?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Probably something attached to the front of Bertozzi car tripped the light

Ron

Mack Reeves · 10-03-2013, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Andys dad

Is this real?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Probably something attached to the front of Bertozzi car tripped the light

Ron

Photo must have been removed... I can't see it....

Andys dad · 10-03-2013, 09:41 AM

Its a Facebook post of Helms beating Bertozzi - not even close

Disturbing ..

Its happened before and it will happen again

I shared it from Robert Fazio's Facebook to my Facebook

I am not sure how to get it on here - I have a .JPG

I am Class Racer "challenged"

Ron

Oh there it is

Andrew Stirk · 10-03-2013, 09:52 AM

He Took the strip with the Front end of the car... whats the problem here? if you own or drive a mid 80's Camaro you know you have a 3 foot stripe taker aslong as you dip the front end right at the lights....

Could show you 3-4 examples of front ends taking the stripes over front wheels... all ESPN 2 sportsman coverage, its saved on youtube I believe.

Key is to know what your racing, your opponents front wheels or their front end...

sammy pizzolato · 10-03-2013, 10:16 AM

same thing happened to me at the 1991 sports nats the final round i was robbed the same way when Ronnie Cardwell firebird tiped the nose and set off the win light. ESPN showed the finish line and i was clearley the winner.i had a better light and was over my dile in.i was ahead at the finish line when his light came on i figured i ran out.but that was not the case.it was the nose just like with Helms.it is just not right.

jmcarter · 10-03-2013, 10:38 AM

First thing I do when I determine my round opponent is look at the front end of their car, preferably before getting in my car so I can look under it. This is particularly true in Super classes and with more later model cars in Super Stock it's equally important. "Back in the day" you could always just see where your opponent's A Pillar (or whatever reference point ) was when you were both pre-staged but that doesn't work so well anymore.

Billy Pires · 10-03-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato

same thing happened to me at the 1991 sports nats the final round i was robbed the same way when Ronnie Cardwell firebird tiped the nose and set off the win light. ESPN showed the finish line and i was clearley the winner.i had a better light and was over my dile in.i was ahead at the finish line when his light came on i figured i ran out.but that was not the case.it was the nose just like with Helms.it is just not right.

I don't know Cardwell but saying you were robbed and you were "clearly the winner" sounds a bit extreme. The front end is a double edge sword. Think about it...

sammy pizzolato · 10-03-2013, 11:24 AM

after that race NHRA was inspecting all front ends for clearance.Ronnie did it by acc. but are we racing by wheels or by spoilers.there has to be some rule.but when you look at that pic of Kevin who do you think really won. just saying!!!! and if we are racing by spoilers LET the games begin. maybe it is time for instant replay like the NFL.

Isaac Zane · 10-03-2013, 11:36 AM

I wonder how many "Clear Winners" ended up breaking out (and losing) due to taking the stripe with the nose instead of the tire???
Know your car, know your opponents car. Adjust accordingly.

gbur · 10-03-2013, 12:43 PM

But who has the exact dimension on height of finish line beams ?

10-03-2013, 08:57 AM	#1
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Another close race? Is this real? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater Probably something attached to the front of Bertozzi car tripped the light Ron __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham

10-03-2013, 09:41 AM	#3
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Another close race? Its a Facebook post of Helms beating Bertozzi - not even close Disturbing .. Its happened before and it will happen again I shared it from Robert Fazio's Facebook to my Facebook I am not sure how to get it on here - I have a .JPG I am Class Racer "challenged" Ron Oh there it is Attached Thumbnails __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham

10-03-2013, 09:52 AM	#4
Andrew Stirk Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 7 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Another close race? He Took the strip with the Front end of the car... whats the problem here? if you own or drive a mid 80's Camaro you know you have a 3 foot stripe taker aslong as you dip the front end right at the lights.... Could show you 3-4 examples of front ends taking the stripes over front wheels... all ESPN 2 sportsman coverage, its saved on youtube I believe. Key is to know what your racing, your opponents front wheels or their front end...

10-03-2013, 10:16 AM	#5
sammy pizzolato Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houma louisiana Posts: 432 Likes: 52 Liked 56 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Another close race? same thing happened to me at the 1991 sports nats the final round i was robbed the same way when Ronnie Cardwell firebird tiped the nose and set off the win light. ESPN showed the finish line and i was clearley the winner.i had a better light and was over my dile in.i was ahead at the finish line when his light came on i figured i ran out.but that was not the case.it was the nose just like with Helms.it is just not right.

10-03-2013, 10:38 AM	#6
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,295 Likes: 2,382 Liked 3,174 Times in 971 Posts	Re: Another close race? First thing I do when I determine my round opponent is look at the front end of their car, preferably before getting in my car so I can look under it. This is particularly true in Super classes and with more later model cars in Super Stock it's equally important. "Back in the day" you could always just see where your opponent's A Pillar (or whatever reference point ) was when you were both pre-staged but that doesn't work so well anymore. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

10-03-2013, 11:24 AM	#8
sammy pizzolato Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houma louisiana Posts: 432 Likes: 52 Liked 56 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Another close race? after that race NHRA was inspecting all front ends for clearance.Ronnie did it by acc. but are we racing by wheels or by spoilers.there has to be some rule.but when you look at that pic of Kevin who do you think really won. just saying!!!! and if we are racing by spoilers LET the games begin. maybe it is time for instant replay like the NFL. Last edited by sammy pizzolato; 10-03-2013 at 11:41 AM.

10-03-2013, 11:36 AM	#9
Isaac Zane Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: North Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 361 Likes: 391 Liked 50 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Another close race? I wonder how many "Clear Winners" ended up breaking out (and losing) due to taking the stripe with the nose instead of the tire??? Know your car, know your opponents car. Adjust accordingly. __________________ Isaac Zane STK 1237 J/SA Buick Apollo Patriot Guard Rider DOOF 43 Last edited by Isaac Zane; 10-03-2013 at 11:39 AM. Reason: sock had a hole in it

10-03-2013, 12:43 PM	#10
gbur Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Spotsylvania,Va Posts: 354 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Another close race? But who has the exact dimension on height of finish line beams ?