Indy Tear Down

K Stubbs · 09-13-2013, 06:41 PM

They didn't even wait until I won class to invite me, they just handed me the slip ( with required signature) and pulled me over and sealed my motor, right after first rd of class. It wasn't a bad deal and im sure everyone lost some tools because they were all getting shared by everyone. Good Times

Jeff Teuton · 09-13-2013, 06:44 PM

Stubbs, I'm sure we stole some. I willmake it up on the next physical fitness thing I get from you.

K Stubbs · 09-13-2013, 06:48 PM

Jeff a fishing trip will do it

B Parker · 09-13-2013, 09:49 PM

I agree with Dave 200%. What if I take my bogus car to Indy next year. I have a roller cam in it and the heads are bogus as all heck. Now I know they only pull apart the faster cars or class winners so I sand bag and run just fast enough to get in. Now in round 3 I have a heads up. I out run the guy who one class and went to tear down by 2 tenths. Lets keep everyone honest even the slower cars.

They should tear down anyone that affects a class or HP rating for an engine combo. But as we all know it's easier said then done. Barry

Larry Hill · 09-15-2013, 07:51 AM

Who should go to the barn?

All factory showdown cars, If the ahfs does not apply to them, they need to pay some kind of price to get into the race.

#1, #128, #1 alternate, winner and runner up of classes of ten cars or more. New parts cars; cars that were given new parts: heads, carbs, the forty year old cam find, or what ever else in the way of new parts.

The worst sandbaggers.

Wade Mahaffey · 09-15-2013, 09:18 AM

I don't have any experience in the "teardown mode", but will have before to long I think. I have requested the ability to sit in on some teardown operations. I would like to become familiar with the proper techniques and procedures on "what to check" and "how to check". I believe that tech officials only have a limited amount of time and resources, and should direct their attention toward the most likely offenders. To me that would be the faster folks. An example would be: a police officer pulling over someone that looks like they could be a bank robber, while the bank across the street is actually being robbed:. In other words, if there was a prize to be found in an illegal combination, would you waste your time looking for it in a slower entry? I have never heard anyone say about a slow car "that SOB is cheating", but that would be funny! Of course the most fair way is for everyone to be checked, but is not realistic here. It seems to me that if you are real fast, then you probably can teardown in your sleep.....everyone thinks you're cheating....go to teardown, and confirm that you are "THE MAN". Then you should'nt be subjected to the barn again until your combo finds another 3-4 tenths somewhere. That way you're not in there every year while others skate by. I think there should be a value on how far under you are....say -80...that would be used to determine if they would like to look at you. Any time you achieve that, you are placed on the list for teardown consideration. If you're the 3rd or 4th fastest car in class in the country, you probably don't care if the 9th or 10th fastest car is cheating or not......BUT YOU DO CARE IF 1 and 2 ARE!

Wade Mahaffey

John Duzac · 09-15-2013, 09:30 AM

Wade, I can tell you that if you applied that thinking on your bank robbery theory, that would amount to Profiling. And if an arrest was made, No Probable Cause exists. Result: sued for false arrest.
You are right in your thinking that the fastest folks should be takin apart. All class winners should come apart.

09-13-2013, 06:44 PM	#2
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Indy Tear Down Stubbs, I'm sure we stole some. I willmake it up on the next physical fitness thing I get from you. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

09-13-2013, 06:48 PM	#3
K Stubbs Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Benton, Arkansas Posts: 402 Likes: 0 Liked 20 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Indy Tear Down Jeff a fishing trip will do it

09-13-2013, 09:49 PM	#4
B Parker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 849 Likes: 980 Liked 2,336 Times in 464 Posts	Re: Indy Tear Down I agree with Dave 200%. What if I take my bogus car to Indy next year. I have a roller cam in it and the heads are bogus as all heck. Now I know they only pull apart the faster cars or class winners so I sand bag and run just fast enough to get in. Now in round 3 I have a heads up. I out run the guy who one class and went to tear down by 2 tenths. Lets keep everyone honest even the slower cars. They should tear down anyone that affects a class or HP rating for an engine combo. But as we all know it's easier said then done. Barry

09-15-2013, 07:51 AM	#5
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,640 Likes: 1,937 Liked 10,713 Times in 2,230 Posts	Re: Indy Tear Down Who should go to the barn? All factory showdown cars, If the ahfs does not apply to them, they need to pay some kind of price to get into the race. #1, #128, #1 alternate, winner and runner up of classes of ten cars or more. New parts cars; cars that were given new parts: heads, carbs, the forty year old cam find, or what ever else in the way of new parts. The worst sandbaggers. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

09-15-2013, 09:18 AM	#6
Wade Mahaffey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 581 Likes: 0 Liked 17 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Indy Tear Down I don't have any experience in the "teardown mode", but will have before to long I think. I have requested the ability to sit in on some teardown operations. I would like to become familiar with the proper techniques and procedures on "what to check" and "how to check". I believe that tech officials only have a limited amount of time and resources, and should direct their attention toward the most likely offenders. To me that would be the faster folks. An example would be: a police officer pulling over someone that looks like they could be a bank robber, while the bank across the street is actually being robbed:. In other words, if there was a prize to be found in an illegal combination, would you waste your time looking for it in a slower entry? I have never heard anyone say about a slow car "that SOB is cheating", but that would be funny! Of course the most fair way is for everyone to be checked, but is not realistic here. It seems to me that if you are real fast, then you probably can teardown in your sleep.....everyone thinks you're cheating....go to teardown, and confirm that you are "THE MAN". Then you should'nt be subjected to the barn again until your combo finds another 3-4 tenths somewhere. That way you're not in there every year while others skate by. I think there should be a value on how far under you are....say -80...that would be used to determine if they would like to look at you. Any time you achieve that, you are placed on the list for teardown consideration. If you're the 3rd or 4th fastest car in class in the country, you probably don't care if the 9th or 10th fastest car is cheating or not......BUT YOU DO CARE IF 1 and 2 ARE! Wade Mahaffey Last edited by Wade Mahaffey; 09-15-2013 at 09:21 AM.

09-13-2013, 06:41 PM	#1
K Stubbs Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Benton, Arkansas Posts: 402 Likes: 0 Liked 20 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Indy Tear Down They didn't even wait until I won class to invite me, they just handed me the slip ( with required signature) and pulled me over and sealed my motor, right after first rd of class. It wasn't a bad deal and im sure everyone lost some tools because they were all getting shared by everyone. Good Times

09-15-2013, 09:30 AM	#7
John Duzac Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Covington, La Posts: 311 Likes: 63 Liked 83 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Indy Tear Down Wade, I can tell you that if you applied that thinking on your bank robbery theory, that would amount to Profiling. And if an arrest was made, No Probable Cause exists. Result: sued for false arrest. You are right in your thinking that the fastest folks should be takin apart. All class winners should come apart. __________________ John Duzac D/S 4448 STK