Anybody Have Video of the Epic Burndown in Stock at Sonoma?

[Bobby DiDomenico]

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel

Can't all you darn Polocks just get along?

Jimmy,
You mean Polo like Chemise Lacoste, Izod, Ralph Lauren, etc right?

[boostedf22c]

Why are you running your race car in closed loop anyways?

[Jeff Teuton]

Nothing like a little controversy to get the old blood pressure up. Hope you guys make up. I'm still not sure who is the burnee and burnette. And maturity does not come with age. Joint pain, pills, and regular visits to the doc come with age. Maturity is a mystery item. And over 50 is sorta teenagerette. I don't think Webster would like this site. You know the guy who does the dictionaries where you actually open a book and look up a word. Ed knows who Webster is.

[Sam The Butcher]

I want to congratulate Tommy on his excellent driving and staying focused. What a final round he had also! Taking out what I consider the best stock driver there is..

[Tom keedle]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Nothing like a little controversy to get the old blood pressure up. Hope you guys make up. I'm still not sure who is the burnee and burnette. And maturity does not come with age. Joint pain, pills, and regular visits to the doc come with age. Maturity is a mystery item. And over 50 is sorta teenagerette. I don't think Webster would like this site. You know the guy who does the dictionaries where you actually open a book and look up a word. Ed knows who Webster is.

wasn't Webster a black kid on a sitcom?

[Geerhead55]

Originally Posted by Tom keedle

wasn't Webster a black kid on a sitcom?

"Wha Chu talkin' bout, Willis???

[Toby Lang]

Originally Posted by Tommy Gaynor

When we pulled out of the lanes to the ready line my car was about 85 degrees. The way I run my car it has to be 115 degrees for the fuel injection system to go into closed loop. If it runs in open loop below 115 degrees it shoots numbers all over the place. I did my burn out with the water pump off, didn't move much so I started stalling it up against the convertor with the fan and water pump off. It slowly started warming, as per the rules I kept making forward motion as it warmed up. The starter waived me in one time and I kept bumping forward.

I just assumed you noticed that your temp was low after the burnout and that's why you took so long. If you noticed the temp was low when they pulled you to the ready line, why didn't you start getting on the convertor then instead of waiting until after the burnout? I wouldn't think it would take that long to get it from 85 to 115 degrees. Also, you could have stopped behind the burnout box and got on the convertor like some people do to test their transbrake. I would have been stalling it from the second I saw the temp was low. I don't know about your car, but on mine the temp gauge doesn't really move unless you toggle the water pump.

According to your interpretation of the rules, when the starter waves you in all you need to do is make forward motion? If that's the case, I should be able to take 15 minutes to stage as long as I make forward motion, right? I've always heard when the starter waves you to stage you are supposed to stage like ... NOW! Not just make inch bumps towards the line or stage whenever you feel like it.

You say you felt awful about it after the race, but when you were doing it you had to know that you were hanging Jim out to dry and his car was heating up. But, you got your car up to the proper temp and that's all that matters.

[west coast]

This is what is in the rule book nothing about a set time to prestage or stage. Tommy you crack me up.

A reasonable amount of time will be permitted for drivers to stage.
The time limit will be determined at the sole and absolute discretion
of the official starter. Failure to stage upon the starter’s instructions
is possible grounds for disqualification. After proper staging and
receiving the starter’s signal to go, restaging for a second time is
prohibited. Any driver leaving the starting line before the start
system is activated, including a driver on a single run, will have his
or her time disqualified for the run.

[Tommy Gaynor]

Toby what the *****! It's over! I can not take it back. I have made three attempts to apologize to Jim. I have explained myself and the situation in a public forum and people will all have their own opinions. I don't know what you want to do from here, we could do it old school and I could come see you at the Seattle National and we could fist fight? Or we could do it NASCAR style and Jim could wreck me next time we race, or even better NASCAR pit crew style and we could have a brawl with jack handles! Just let me know what you are thinking and I'll make sure my car is warmed up! Seriously aren't you both over 50? I thought maturity came with age, maybe I'm wrong again.

[Toby Lang]

Originally Posted by Tommy Gaynor

Toby what the *****! It's over! I can not take it back. I have made three attempts to apologize to Jim. I have explained myself and the situation in a public forum and people will all have their own opinions. I don't know what you want to do from here, we could do it old school and I could come see you at the Seattle National and we could fist fight? Or we could do it NASCAR style and Jim could wreck me next time we race, or even better NASCAR pit crew style and we could have a brawl with jack handles! Just let me know what you are thinking and I'll make sure my car is warmed up! Seriously aren't you both over 50? I thought maturity came with age, maybe I'm wrong again.

Yep, it's over. Stay classy, Tommy.