Norwalk SG DQ

Bart Nelson · 07-09-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by voltdr

Jon Pellicane was DQ'ed for excessive braking in R4 of SG against Ray Connolly. Does anyone know how bad the excessive braking was.
Dan Foley
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Probably not as hard as you hit em Mr. Dan " don't give up" Foley. lol

voltdr · 07-09-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bart nelson

probably not as hard as you hit em mr. Dan " don't give up" foley. Lol

lmao.....................

Chuck Westcott · 07-10-2013, 08:30 PM

Well ! Good for NHRA !
Excessive braking is a big issue and needs to be addressed on a regular basis.
If you kill it on the breaks and hit me I promise you the beating of your Stupid Life.
How Dumb can someone be hitting the breaks that hard to smokem up. If your going that fast learn to dial your Car and keep others Safe in the meantime.

EricArrow · 07-10-2013, 09:23 PM

I haven't spoken with Jon ...but he runs a .90 series in WNY and I have never known him to be hard on the binders. I wonder if something locked up on the car??

voltdr · 07-10-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Westcott

Well ! Good for NHRA !
Excessive braking is a big issue and needs to be addressed on a regular basis.
If you kill it on the breaks and hit me I promise you the beating of your Stupid Life.
How Dumb can someone be hitting the breaks that hard to smokem up. If your going that fast learn to dial your Car and keep others Safe in the meantime.

I cannot agree with you more Chuck. If more would be DQ'd then maybe it would make more racers dial there cars honest…

Maverick · 07-10-2013, 10:12 PM

How would you determine excessive braking, and how would you police it. I have seen it done for years, some racers don't want to jeporadize themselves, and race with out getting on the brakes. Others do it, and that is how they race. I am with Chuck, about what would happen after the fact. But if it ever happened to me, I would be done, and just happy to survive. Remember seeing a photo of a super gas going through the lights and smoke coming off his tires, a couple of years ago, and no one said it was excessive. I think it depends on who you are, and what you get away with.

Wade Mahaffey · 07-10-2013, 11:45 PM

What do they consider excessive? I would say just to be safe that any time, any of your tires stop turning from 60 ft prior to, and 60 ft after the finish line stripe. And allow anyone's finish line video to confirm said infraction as long as it's prior to the next round. Just get to an Official to confirm that the incident is under official review. If you get caught, they sit you down for the season. It's a little harsh but if you want to fix it.....fix it! Get this under control so someone does'nt have to quit racing because they destroyed their car or killed themselves. I f you can throw someone out for a year for a few thou on the crankshaft or heads etc.....you should have no problem tossing them for a dangerous safety infraction at 100 MPH

Wade Mahaffey

C and W Racing · 07-11-2013, 08:20 AM

I agree. It is something that it seems that they pick and choose when to enforce it. I was at Belle Rose for the divisional and watched our current world champ roll smoke off of the tires and nothing said about it and I was still in the staging lanes when I saw it so I can promise you the starter and the people in the tower should have seen it as well, or they aren't paying attention to the things they should be. The pic that was mentioned earlier was also taken at Belle Rose a few years ago, and yes, he should have been disqualified as well. A rule is a rule, but some will do anything to try and turn on a win light. I'm with Chuck on the fact that if you stuff your car into mine because of excessive braking, you better have a lot of cash in your pocket or it won't be pretty. I may not have the nicest stuff out there, but I work for everything that I have and don't need it taken from me because of stupidity
Chuck

07-10-2013, 08:30 PM	#3
Chuck Westcott Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brownsburg,Indiana Posts: 326 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Norwalk SG DQ Well ! Good for NHRA ! Excessive braking is a big issue and needs to be addressed on a regular basis. If you kill it on the breaks and hit me I promise you the beating of your Stupid Life. How Dumb can someone be hitting the breaks that hard to smokem up. If your going that fast learn to dial your Car and keep others Safe in the meantime. __________________ Chuck Westcott- S/C -S/G 225

07-10-2013, 09:23 PM	#4
EricArrow Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 145 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Norwalk SG DQ I haven't spoken with Jon ...but he runs a .90 series in WNY and I have never known him to be hard on the binders. I wonder if something locked up on the car?? __________________ Low and Slow

07-10-2013, 10:12 PM	#6
Maverick Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 299 Likes: 3 Liked 36 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Norwalk SG DQ How would you determine excessive braking, and how would you police it. I have seen it done for years, some racers don't want to jeporadize themselves, and race with out getting on the brakes. Others do it, and that is how they race. I am with Chuck, about what would happen after the fact. But if it ever happened to me, I would be done, and just happy to survive. Remember seeing a photo of a super gas going through the lights and smoke coming off his tires, a couple of years ago, and no one said it was excessive. I think it depends on who you are, and what you get away with.

07-10-2013, 11:45 PM	#7
Wade Mahaffey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 581 Likes: 0 Liked 18 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Norwalk SG DQ What do they consider excessive? I would say just to be safe that any time, any of your tires stop turning from 60 ft prior to, and 60 ft after the finish line stripe. And allow anyone's finish line video to confirm said infraction as long as it's prior to the next round. Just get to an Official to confirm that the incident is under official review. If you get caught, they sit you down for the season. It's a little harsh but if you want to fix it.....fix it! Get this under control so someone does'nt have to quit racing because they destroyed their car or killed themselves. I f you can throw someone out for a year for a few thou on the crankshaft or heads etc.....you should have no problem tossing them for a dangerous safety infraction at 100 MPH Wade Mahaffey Last edited by Wade Mahaffey; 07-11-2013 at 12:00 AM.

07-11-2013, 08:20 AM	#8
C and W Racing Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 557 Likes: 6 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Norwalk SG DQ I agree. It is something that it seems that they pick and choose when to enforce it. I was at Belle Rose for the divisional and watched our current world champ roll smoke off of the tires and nothing said about it and I was still in the staging lanes when I saw it so I can promise you the starter and the people in the tower should have seen it as well, or they aren't paying attention to the things they should be. The pic that was mentioned earlier was also taken at Belle Rose a few years ago, and yes, he should have been disqualified as well. A rule is a rule, but some will do anything to try and turn on a win light. I'm with Chuck on the fact that if you stuff your car into mine because of excessive braking, you better have a lot of cash in your pocket or it won't be pretty. I may not have the nicest stuff out there, but I work for everything that I have and don't need it taken from me because of stupidity Chuck