Wheelie Bars are not needed for Safety on Stockers!

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Originally Posted by sstockdart

fyi, class racers are like family.........we disagree on many things, but then end result is that we love the sport and are proud of what we do...........we will argue among ourselves and beat each other up..........but......let an outsider come in that criticizes us and we will take them to the wood shed.....

[Joe Martens]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

FYI, Class Racers are like family.........we disagree on many things, but then end result is that we love the sport and are proud of what we do...........we will argue among ourselves and beat each other up..........BUT......let an outsider come in that criticizes us and we will take them to the wood shed.....

Amen!!!

[Nathan Stinson]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

FYI, Class Racers are like family.........we disagree on many things, but then end result is that we love the sport and are proud of what we do...........we will argue among ourselves and beat each other up..........BUT......let an outsider come in that criticizes us and we will take them to the wood shed.....

All racers should be family. I respect what s/ss guys do and have been around it a long time. Its a shame that some of you folks can't offer that same respect to other forms of drag racing. You may be surprised what you could learn if you opened your minds.

[Charles Rainey]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

FYI, Class Racers are like family.........we disagree on many things, but then end result is that we love the sport and are proud of what we do...........we will argue among ourselves and beat each other up..........BUT......let an outsider come in that criticizes us and we will take them to the wood shed.....

I always thought racing was racing, no matter the class, but as I read this thread, I find that as I no longer am able to race (doctor said quit), that I may need to reevaluate. I come to this site to learn any info that I can gleam from people that should be in the know better than. But I also come to see how our sport is progressing or moving. After reading this thread, it may be time for a new evaluation. Many people people are posting, some that race, some like me that have to only go look, and those that help. Some of the info is good, some is so so., but all is conversation about OUR sport. Would like to make a observation as Mr Stimpson did, but got personally criticized. In case most of you have not recognized, class racing is on the down turn, both in numbers participating and in those people attending races to watch. So I feel we should be particular in how we criticize anyone for making a observation or contributing any input. Lets not let this be a part of the reason for the down turn. Also the other side should be a little more tactful with your inputs as your racing may turn down also. When you are at a track, that is a family, like it or not. It is really a family reunion of people that participate in a sport of gear heads. I do not want to ever have to go to yellow bullet because this forum stinks as some of this thread does.
charles

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Nathan Stinson

I thought that's what this board was? Every time I look at it you guys are crying about something. Matter of fact a lot of the things 1320 mentioned, you guys have been known to bitch about. Oh the irony.

Obviously, no one pays you to think. Or if they do, they certainly are not getting their money's worth.

It appears that a lot of people who do not race Stock and Super Stock believe people who do race Stock and Super Stock desperately need their input.

Odd, when people who can't, or won't, do what you're doing (or both can't and won't) seem to want to tell you how to do it better, they never quite get it right. Go figure.

[Nathan Stinson]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Obviously, no one pays you to think. Or if they do, they certainly are not getting their money's worth.

It appears that a lot of people who do not race Stock and Super Stock believe people who do race Stock and Super Stock desperately need their input.

Odd, when people who can't, or won't, do what you're doing (or both can't and won't) seem to want to tell you how to do it better, they never quite get it right. Go figure.

I never gave any input just made a observation. Like I have told you before Alan I have been around and know a lot of you guys. Funny how you assume people can't do something. I choose to do something else but I don't look down my nose like some of you elitist snobs that call yourself class racers. What car do you own Alan? Last I seen you were running Kevin's grill and your mouth. Kinda like you do on here.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Nathan Stinson

I never gave any input just made a observation. Like I have told you before Alan I have been around and know a lot of you guys. Funny how you assume people can't do something. I choose to do something else but I don't look down my nose like some of you elitist snobs that call yourself class racers. What car do you own Alan? Last I seen you were running Kevin's grill and your mouth. Kinda like you do on here.

I don't own a car right now, that will change soon enough. I work on a few for other people.

I don't look down my nose at anyone. I do, however, get annoyed with people like you who have a habit of making a bunch of ill informed and ignorant comments such as the post I quoted.

FYI, I build most everything on that car, the engine, transmission, and rear end. I don't own it, that's true. Ask Kevin about it some time, since you seem to know so much.

[Crisco]

Originally Posted by Nathan Stinson

I thought that's what this board was? Every time I look at it you guys are crying about something. Matter of fact a lot of the things 1320 mentioned, you guys have been known to bitch about. Oh the irony.

No insults in this post towards anyone..

[Ken Miele]

Originally Posted by Nathan Stinson

I thought that's what this board was? Every time I look at it you guys are crying about something. Matter of fact a lot of the things 1320 mentioned, you guys have been known to bitch about. Oh the irony.

Nathan,

The above statement is insulting to me and not helpful in anyway. Yes we have issues with not only NHRA but each other, but it would be like me going into the Top Sportsmen section and posting. I know many Top Sportsmen racers, but I do not presume to know anything about their type of racing. I would never go into a forum and post as you did without walking in their shoes first.

I guess I'm the sensitive type, but you could have worded it differently or just not posted.

Crisco, I guess we look through a different set of glasses...... I was insulted.

[Bruce Noland]

This forum is for and about class racers. We were debating the obvious need for wheelie bars when it was interrupted by several people trying to compare class cars to 10.5 cars. Which of course didn't work out for them. Now we have some bracket guys with childish chips on their shoulders hurling insults. Bracket guys have their sites and can contribute all they want but coming here just to be ugly when you don't get your way is unacceptable. Alan has raced in nhra stock and coninues to build and crew Stockers. Alan has been a valuable contributor to this site. I think Mr Stinson has shown enough ugliness to be banned. And should be.

This thread was derailed by the bracket guys and we need to return to the original intent. Which is, the idiotic ruling by nhra to change or remove our wheelie bars, at great expense and risk to the racers, nhra staff and nearby crew members. nhra tech has been reduced to puppet status by nhra and picking on little body modifications like this shows they have been neutered. Bruce isn't attending many national events and I don't think they have torn down 3 cars this year. That leaves the door open for all sorts of chicanery. How long has it been since nhra drug tested the racers?