End of Stock and SuperStock Racing??

boostedf22c · 06-19-2013, 11:19 AM

The next generation of racers aren't going to be class racers.

They are heads up, pro tree, fastest car wins type racers. There are tons of other races going on all over the country where the "younger generation" race at. They just aren't interested in class racing. To them it's confusing. You get penalized for going to fast, you qualify off of some fictitious number that NHRA came up with, you get fined and banned for stupid reasons, the events are 3-5 days long plus travel, the entry fees are ridiculous, the payouts are low and the rules are written in a manner that if you don't have a traditional car, built by the big 3, you'll have a hard time fitting in. These are all things I have heard from others that race, but don't class race.

I personal enjoy all aspects that racing has to offer. But I'm starting to find out it's very hard to have a car that is good at everything.

Todd Veney · 06-19-2013, 11:49 AM

R.J., I sure hope you're wrong – that would be a shame. I liked it even more when everybody still ran off of national records and racers' hard work back at the shop meant more than their ability to hit the Tree, but Super Stock will always be my favorite Sportsman class

HR9121 · 06-19-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by boostedf22c

The next generation of racers aren't going to be class racers.

They are heads up, pro tree, fastest car wins type racers. There are tons of other races going on all over the country where the "younger generation" race at. They just aren't interested in class racing. To them it's confusing. You get penalized for going to fast, you qualify off of some fictitious number that NHRA came up with, you get fined and banned for stupid reasons, the events are 3-5 days long plus travel, the entry fees are ridiculous, the payouts are low and the rules are written in a manner that if you don't have a traditional car, built by the big 3, you'll have a hard time fitting in. These are all things I have heard from others that race, but don't class race.

I personal enjoy all aspects that racing has to offer. But I'm starting to find out it's very hard to have a car that is good at everything.

This about sums it up except you left out the small purses.

Jim Caughlin · 06-19-2013, 03:50 PM

Bobby, you don't need to explain it to the three spectators because all three of them are family members of the guy going down the track...

Bobby Fazio · 06-20-2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

Bobby, you don't need to explain it to the three spectators because all three of them are family members of the guy going down the track...

Hahah touché my friend

Michael Colaluca · 06-20-2013, 09:57 AM

What is hurting the future of stock and superstock? The cost!

Who in their 20s-30s is going to want to spend 10k+ on a race engine, when they can spend the same money and go twice as fast using other means?

The rules need to be reevaluated. If nothing happens, watch the classes disappear.

Billy Nees · 06-20-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Colaluca

What is hurting the future of stock and superstock? The cost!

Who in their 20s-30s is going to want to spend 10k+ on a race engine, when they can spend the same money and go twice as fast using other means?

The rules need to be reevaluated. If nothing happens, watch the classes disappear.

Michael, you are absolutely right! As the current racers retire(or worse) they aren't being replaced with enough younger racers. I've been trying for quite some time to show potential racers that it doesn't have to be silly expensive to race(Dime Rockets) but I also understand that a 20-30 yearold doesn't want to race a 30+ yearold 14 second car.
At some point in the not too distant future, NHRA is going to have to do either a drastic re-write of the rules(think early 70s type of re-write) or they are going to have to let the imports in in some way. If they don't I'm afraid to say that attrition is going to eventually do us in. And all of that being said, It seems to me that Stock is probably the healthiest of all the Eliminators. At least it is right now.

Michael Colaluca · 06-20-2013, 11:10 AM

Exactly!

I have several buddies that go grudge racing quite often. One spent the same amount as it cost to build a nice 318, for an entire vehicle that runs in the 5.80 range in the 1/8 mile!

That is where racing is going unfortunately. The younger generation doesn't want to spend money on a car that goes "slow." They would rather slap nitrous on a 5.0 mustang or a v8 s10.

The only person I have seen around my age, or 10 years older rather, was started by their family. Haven't seen someone really jump into it from a younger generation, however I could be wrong.

I do not believe allowing the import cars would change anything. Kids that race these days just would rather go fast. Don't understand rules, or why someone would use a quadrajet or thermoquad carb to race.

06-19-2013, 11:19 AM	#1
boostedf22c Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lebanon, IN Posts: 483 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? The next generation of racers aren't going to be class racers. They are heads up, pro tree, fastest car wins type racers. There are tons of other races going on all over the country where the "younger generation" race at. They just aren't interested in class racing. To them it's confusing. You get penalized for going to fast, you qualify off of some fictitious number that NHRA came up with, you get fined and banned for stupid reasons, the events are 3-5 days long plus travel, the entry fees are ridiculous, the payouts are low and the rules are written in a manner that if you don't have a traditional car, built by the big 3, you'll have a hard time fitting in. These are all things I have heard from others that race, but don't class race. I personal enjoy all aspects that racing has to offer. But I'm starting to find out it's very hard to have a car that is good at everything. __________________ Carey Bales 316D DD/AT www.racetactics.net Last edited by boostedf22c; 06-19-2013 at 11:21 AM.

06-19-2013, 11:49 AM	#2
Todd Veney Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12 Likes: 35 Liked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? R.J., I sure hope you're wrong – that would be a shame. I liked it even more when everybody still ran off of national records and racers' hard work back at the shop meant more than their ability to hit the Tree, but Super Stock will always be my favorite Sportsman class

06-19-2013, 03:50 PM	#4
Jim Caughlin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Woodburn, Or Posts: 688 Likes: 84 Liked 806 Times in 246 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? Bobby, you don't need to explain it to the three spectators because all three of them are family members of the guy going down the track...

06-20-2013, 09:57 AM	#6
Michael Colaluca Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 81 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? What is hurting the future of stock and superstock? The cost! Who in their 20s-30s is going to want to spend 10k+ on a race engine, when they can spend the same money and go twice as fast using other means? The rules need to be reevaluated. If nothing happens, watch the classes disappear.

06-20-2013, 11:10 AM	#8
Michael Colaluca Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 81 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? Exactly! I have several buddies that go grudge racing quite often. One spent the same amount as it cost to build a nice 318, for an entire vehicle that runs in the 5.80 range in the 1/8 mile! That is where racing is going unfortunately. The younger generation doesn't want to spend money on a car that goes "slow." They would rather slap nitrous on a 5.0 mustang or a v8 s10. The only person I have seen around my age, or 10 years older rather, was started by their family. Haven't seen someone really jump into it from a younger generation, however I could be wrong. I do not believe allowing the import cars would change anything. Kids that race these days just would rather go fast. Don't understand rules, or why someone would use a quadrajet or thermoquad carb to race.