What's your opinion on this?

Bobby Fazio · 05-03-2013, 07:01 PM

One session of qualifying at Atlanta and straight into eliminations. Should DQs be allowed to run the event? In this case it looks like they are allowing them to run. What is your take on it?

MikeMoller · 05-03-2013, 07:38 PM

Probably weight or fuel, so let e'm run. He gets no position advantage in the ladder, and he will get checked again if he wins.

Toby Lang · 05-03-2013, 07:51 PM

If they don't get the scheduled amount of time runs, yes. If they get the scheduled amount of time runs, no.

Standard procedure.

Lew Silverman · 05-03-2013, 07:54 PM

I agree with Mike. With the information we have it looks to be a technical infraction, so because there appear to be no Combo Class run-off's, it's right into the Eliminator tomorrow morning. He'll still have to meet weight and pass a fuel-check in order to advance anyway, so I see no problem.

Lew

Lyn Smith · 05-03-2013, 08:06 PM

They have changed that rule in the last few years.In the past if you showed up at a National event or a points race and did not make a legal run down the track ,you did not get on the ladder. Now you do.

Toby Lang · 05-03-2013, 08:18 PM

If a race is scheduled to have four qualifying sessions and four qualifying sessions are run and you don't make a legal pass, you will not get on the ladder. Of course, it's the division director's call and he can still put you on the ladder if he wants to.

Bobby Fazio · 05-03-2013, 08:20 PM

Two years ago joe Mocci was not allowed to run at englishtown for a weight infraction. Did they change this rule recently? I do see how he would have to pass if he won first round so it kind of makes sense that he is in. I always threw extra weight in the car for Q1 just to avoid it ever happening to me but I guess I don't have to anymore.

Hagen Gary · 05-03-2013, 09:44 PM

I know its the race that never happened, but last week in Houston there was a car on the latter that never went down the track..... but like Mr. Lang said, I have no problem with it because we only got 1 pass down the track.

MikeMoller · 05-03-2013, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

If they don't get the scheduled amount of time runs, yes. If they get the scheduled amount of time runs, no.

Standard procedure.

Agree with Toby 100%. Was only considering the issue in regards to the situation - only ONE run.

Jeff Teuton · 05-04-2013, 10:13 AM

This situation happened last year at Vegas. I went to bed #1 qualifier with about 51 or some other odd amount of cars, and woke up # 1 with 53 (or 2 more anyway). Now had I taken a trigger and not got No 1, I probably would have been very vocal. Good weather all the way. There is some kind of screwball rule for putting people on the list, and it is designed for weather events, but it has been used to allow anyone who wants to get another day away from the track to simply get on the list without being there or going down the track to enter. Maybe we could get the official NHRA ruling on matters like this. I think we all understand weather happenings, but it should be limited to just that.

05-03-2013, 07:38 PM	#2
MikeMoller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 637 Likes: 27 Liked 254 Times in 78 Posts	Re: What's your opinion on this? Probably weight or fuel, so let e'm run. He gets no position advantage in the ladder, and he will get checked again if he wins. __________________ Mike Moller NHRA 203 Q-R-T/SA

05-03-2013, 07:51 PM	#3
Toby Lang VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 2,133 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: What's your opinion on this? If they don't get the scheduled amount of time runs, yes. If they get the scheduled amount of time runs, no. Standard procedure.

05-03-2013, 07:54 PM	#4
Lew Silverman VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,435 Likes: 371 Liked 129 Times in 59 Posts	Re: What's your opinion on this? I agree with Mike. With the information we have it looks to be a technical infraction, so because there appear to be no Combo Class run-off's, it's right into the Eliminator tomorrow morning. He'll still have to meet weight and pass a fuel-check in order to advance anyway, so I see no problem. Lew __________________ Lew Silverman #2070 "The Wagon Master" N/SA

05-03-2013, 08:06 PM	#5
Lyn Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pontiac,il. Posts: 1,199 Likes: 282 Liked 964 Times in 194 Posts	Re: What's your opinion on this? They have changed that rule in the last few years.In the past if you showed up at a National event or a points race and did not make a legal run down the track ,you did not get on the ladder. Now you do.

05-03-2013, 08:18 PM	#6
Toby Lang VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 2,133 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: What's your opinion on this? If a race is scheduled to have four qualifying sessions and four qualifying sessions are run and you don't make a legal pass, you will not get on the ladder. Of course, it's the division director's call and he can still put you on the ladder if he wants to.

05-03-2013, 07:01 PM	#1
Bobby Fazio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Egg Harbor Township, NJ Posts: 1,468 Likes: 1,446 Liked 4,365 Times in 501 Posts	What's your opinion on this? One session of qualifying at Atlanta and straight into eliminations. Should DQs be allowed to run the event? In this case it looks like they are allowing them to run. What is your take on it? __________________ '65 Mustang SS/L & L/SA DriverInterviews.com \| App.DragInsights.com

05-03-2013, 08:20 PM	#7
Bobby Fazio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Egg Harbor Township, NJ Posts: 1,468 Likes: 1,446 Liked 4,365 Times in 501 Posts	Re: What's your opinion on this? Two years ago joe Mocci was not allowed to run at englishtown for a weight infraction. Did they change this rule recently? I do see how he would have to pass if he won first round so it kind of makes sense that he is in. I always threw extra weight in the car for Q1 just to avoid it ever happening to me but I guess I don't have to anymore. __________________ '65 Mustang SS/L & L/SA DriverInterviews.com \| App.DragInsights.com

05-03-2013, 09:44 PM	#8
Hagen Gary Live Reporter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cajun country Posts: 339 Likes: 51 Liked 34 Times in 10 Posts	Re: What's your opinion on this? I know its the race that never happened, but last week in Houston there was a car on the latter that never went down the track..... but like Mr. Lang said, I have no problem with it because we only got 1 pass down the track.

05-04-2013, 10:13 AM	#10
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: What's your opinion on this? This situation happened last year at Vegas. I went to bed #1 qualifier with about 51 or some other odd amount of cars, and woke up # 1 with 53 (or 2 more anyway). Now had I taken a trigger and not got No 1, I probably would have been very vocal. Good weather all the way. There is some kind of screwball rule for putting people on the list, and it is designed for weather events, but it has been used to allow anyone who wants to get another day away from the track to simply get on the list without being there or going down the track to enter. Maybe we could get the official NHRA ruling on matters like this. I think we all understand weather happenings, but it should be limited to just that. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK