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Old 02-20-2013, 05:57 PM   #1
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I think you guys are going about this wrong. Instead of penalizing people, calculating 1000-foot times, or setting more rules, a much more diplomatic approach would be to simple give people motivation to keep their foot on the floor all the way to the 1320 be it points for qualifying or points for records. Instead of the NHRA throwing more rules our way, a points bonus substantial enough will slowly force the professional racers and swinging d*cks to put their name at the top of the sheet or in the records books. The advantages of awarding points for qualifications (and maybe records too) far outweigh the day it will take to write the code in the program that calculates points.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:16 PM   #2
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You can go to an IHRA race and run as fast as you want. They do not have an AHFS system. some of the NHRA guys run real fast when they are at the IHRA events. I run both so I dont favor either HRA. Just a thought. IHRA sure could use the support too.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:20 PM   #3
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i like that mike in the 80's they gave you extra points for low qualifers.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:47 PM   #4
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i like that mike in the 80's they gave you extra points for low qualifers.
And for records. We got 2 rounds worth of points for ET records if somebody else held it. One round's worth if bumping your own ET record. We got one round's points for MPH records. Not much reason to set records now, but this way it's less work for tech guys. Every time I tore down for a record it was along side two or three others. Then you had to listen to slower guys in your class grumble about it. :-)

Poor Red and Wesley didn't get to have dinner on time many Saturday evenings. LOL
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:57 PM   #5
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What is everyone's problem with the racers (myself included) that don't make a full pass during qualifying? Is it that you can't predict your dial off of the guy who dumps at 1000 ft? Does it make you mad that we can pick up 3 tenths for a heads up run? What's the problem? The last time I looked nobody else (except a few sponsors) pay for anything I put in my car? So I can qualify any way I want! If my opponent red lights or breaks, I can lift if I want to! It's my choice.

When the AHFS came out I was told by a tech official it was my job to slow my car down to NOT get horsepower. So if I want to lift to prevent that, oh well. I can live with myself. I know some diehards disagree, but that's how I race. Sorry if that offends you!
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:10 PM   #6
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Bryan , You said it well.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:14 AM   #7
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What is everyone's problem with the racers (myself included) that don't make a full pass during qualifying? Is it that you can't predict your dial off of the guy who dumps at 1000 ft? Does it make you mad that we can pick up 3 tenths for a heads up run? What's the problem? The last time I looked nobody else (except a few sponsors) pay for anything I put in my car? So I can qualify any way I want! If my opponent red lights or breaks, I can lift if I want to! It's my choice.

When the AHFS came out I was told by a tech official it was my job to slow my car down to NOT get horsepower. So if I want to lift to prevent that, oh well. I can live with myself. I know some diehards disagree, but that's how I race. Sorry if that offends you!
Seems like too many worry about what others are doing more than they should. For the most part, everyone has a pretty fair idea who can run fast regardless of where that racer ends up on the Q sheet. Just as an example, Dan Fletcher has a very fast stocker, rarely ever shows it but we all know who builds his bullets and you know a guy of his caliber isn't about to let himself be outgunned in a heads up run. It's pretty simple, run your own program the way you want to and quit worrying about how others choose to run theirs. And if you really have to know how fast others in your class run, a subscription to Nitro Joes stats is an excellent tool to have.
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:21 PM   #8
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Run your car all out to the finish line. Boy what a unique concept in drag racing. And oh yes, running on the national record instead of some number on the windshield makes things real interesting. When you wake up every Monday morning and look at the national dragster instead of the local news paper to be sure that your record is not changed before heading to the track in a couple of days. Reading this thread, you can bet your paycheck that running off the national record will never come back.
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:21 PM   #9
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Running off the national record will not come back, nor should it. That is ancient history.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:49 PM   #10
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I think you guys are going about this wrong. Instead of penalizing people, calculating 1000-foot times, or setting more rules, a much more diplomatic approach would be to simple give people motivation to keep their foot on the floor all the way to the 1320 be it points for qualifying or points for records. Instead of the NHRA throwing more rules our way, a points bonus substantial enough will slowly force the professional racers and swinging d*cks to put their name at the top of the sheet or in the records books. The advantages of awarding points for qualifications (and maybe records too) far outweigh the day it will take to write the code in the program that calculates points.
That is just perfect sense. Plain and simple.
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