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Old 02-20-2013, 12:43 AM   #1
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I agree Hagen, problem is if it would have happened to anyone else there would not have been a re-run. It took Jimmy Defrank to have this problem for NHRA to basically admit there is a problem. No offense to Jimmy.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:35 AM   #2
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At Topeka years ago, Rick Stewart leans into car and says get this POS outa here, same deal, no discussion. Mike Cotton vs Joe Smo = no rerun IMHO
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:53 AM   #3
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I agree Hagen, problem is if it would have happened to anyone else there would not have been a re-run. It took Jimmy Defrank to have this problem for NHRA to basically admit there is a problem. No offense to Jimmy.
Your statement sounds like an oxymoron; it appears that you believe and implying there was favoritism towards Jimmy, nevertheless, you state that you are not offending him?

Mike and Jimmy are awesome drivers and competitors; it appears their is a problem with the electronics that NHRA knows it exists and they have not addressed and maybe the reason why they made the call.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:50 PM   #4
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SSDIV6, I disagree, I read Howard's comments like this: certain racers have a degree of cachet with the decision makers...and DeFranks are WELL EARNED by their support and achievements, absolutely NO PROBLEM with them at all, the problem continues to be NHRA's uneven application of decisions across the board.

I have always been told, "you stage...you own it".....so reruns for all with "glitches" in EVERY ROUND or NO RERUNS....NHRA should make the call and enforce it.....no sitting on the line holding the race up lobbying....just back it out and accept it.

We all can come up with this scenario or that. The tree is our umpire or ref,,,they make bad calls, its part of the game....replays suck.....you stage, you own it...whatever happens...its not a perfect world....just let us know what to expect (ALL THE TIME)
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SSDIV6, I disagree, I read Howard's comments like this: certain racers have a degree of cachet with the decision makers...and DeFranks are WELL EARNED by their support and achievements, absolutely NO PROBLEM with them at all, the problem continues to be NHRA's uneven application of decisions across the board.

I have always been told, "you stage...you own it".....so reruns for all with "glitches" in EVERY ROUND or NO RERUNS....NHRA should make the call and enforce it.....no sitting on the line holding the race up lobbying....just back it out and accept it.

We all can come up with this scenario or that. The tree is our umpire or ref,,,they make bad calls, its part of the game....replays suck.....you stage, you own it...whatever happens...its not a perfect world....just let us know what to expect (ALL THE TIME)

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Old 02-20-2013, 01:15 PM   #6
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X3 Randall said it better than I could have.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:22 PM   #7
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Default Re: Mike Cotten you are the MAN!

Although I agree with the "you stage, you bought it" when it comes to not checking for the correct dial or index on the display board or score boards, and staging your car, thats YOUR fault for not checking. However, if you lose due to an equipment malfunction that is beyond your control, I can`t imagine anybody here would just shrug their shoulders and say," Oh well", and drive back to their trailer contended with that. What if you are a top bulb racer, and the top bulb is burnt out , or a bottom bulb racer, and the bottom bulb doesn`t work? I have personally had a ET slip that indicated that I qualified #1 by running more than 2 seconds under at a divisional race. Obviously some object must have blown thru the top end photo cells, since my 9 second ET (pretty good for a M/Stocker, eh?)was on the scoreboard long before I hit the finish line. If this would have happened in Eliminations, your damn right I would want a re run. Same deal with the DeFrank/Cotton race. If there was an equipment malfunction, totally beyound the racers control, I can`t imagine any racer would not request a re run, especially in a final round. I don`t personally know either Cotton or DeFrank, I have watched them run, and know they are both good racers, and I realize the pressure of any final round can be quite stressful, a re run even more so. I do feel badly for Mike Cotton, but I do think the rerun was the right call. That said, it will be interesting to see what happens in a similar situation in the future..
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:23 PM   #8
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Yeah, but how many of us would have gotten a re-run?
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