A ? about 2 day S/SS events at BIR IN 2013

[5919 SSKA]

Glenn I hope your not pointing fingers at me with regards to showing up to races. Between my bracket car and super stocker, in an average year I run 14-16 events and have since the late 90s. Double entering S/P and Pro...and even tripple entering a couple of times when someone else could haul my Super Stocker.

As for rasing funds for our S/SS combo's if any of you recall I had one of my sponsors post a fun 'contingency' for $300 W/$100 R-U years ago when BIR tried to run a BIG $ S/SS combo. I didn't even race S/SS back then! We paid out over $1,000 in 2 years. Between Brackets and S/SS. Last year at the National Open at Top End I had another sponsor of mine give away a couple of Certificates to his chassis shop. As well the year prior, when I tried to organize an event there and only had 10 cars show...3 of those out of MY shop. On top of the countless 'fish fry's/pot luck's' I've hosted.

I run all over Division 5 and some of Division 3 chasing MY Super Stock dreams. I'm happy doing what I do. I like the travel and to meet different racer's. BIR IS MY HOME TRACK...make no mistake about it. It's the best facility in our area. However, YOU asked for our thoughts at the beginning.......I just simply told you MY opinion. I for one, like to know what I'm racing for before I pull through the gates! Not the, if there's this many it pays this, or if there's more it pays this. If I know the program, then it's MY decision if I race at the track or not. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that running a Super Stocker or high dollar Stocker for that matter, for anything less than $1,000 to WIN makes sense....just MY opinion.

I talked to the owner just a bit ago on a social media site...average car count in 2012 was 25....just an FYI.

MN racer's tend to support the Midwest Classracer's events at Thunder Valley because they 'guarantee' a payout. Now that being said, now that BIR has stepped to the plate and offered up a 2-day event....will the Midwest Classracer's turn around an support OUR home track back???

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by 5919 SSKA

Nobody will ever be able to convince me that running a Super Stocker or high dollar Stocker for that matter, for anything less than $1,000 to WIN makes sense....just MY opinion.

Good luck with that.

[Scott Dugdale]

All,

Lately, I have had a lot of discussions with Track Owners, Managers and local S/SS organizations regarding local S/SS races at multiple tracks located in the Division 5 area. There has also been lots of discussion from the USA organization and Midwest Class Racers organization to have good payouts at most of these events. We have a VERY GOOD opportunity with BIR with the S/SS program. In the past we were able to have a single race on each weekend and now we have a chance to try two day races throughout the 2013 season at BIR. The June 7th - 9th race was dropped since it was the week after the BIR divisional and conflicted with the Midwest Class Racer event at Thunder Valley in Marion, SD.

The payout listed below is for the 2013 season at BIR for S/SS.

The following will be the formula for all pro-rated payouts for 2013.
Total payout=85% of "racer entry" x "number of racers"
Round 3 payout = racer entry
Round 4 payout - racer entry x 2
Round 5 payout = racer entry x4
Round 6 payout = racer entry x 6
The remaining balance is split 1/3 R/U, 2/3 Winner

Based on $90 entry

32 Entries
Rd 3 $90
Rd 4 $180
R/U $576
Winner $1152

45 Entries
Rd 3 $90
Rd 4 $180
Rd 5 $360
R/U $667
Winner $1335

64 Entries
Rd 3 $90
Rd 4 $180
Rd 5 $360
R/U $912
Winner $1824

[MEXJOE]

Thanks Scott!
my post was all jarbeld-up.
This is much more clear on what the pay out will be!!
THANKS!!

Glen DeMenge

[ZenzenRacing]

As far as the June race, have the Midwest Guys ever supported BIR at the S/SS Events?? Why cancel that race for S/SS ?

[Joe Demarais]

Do you need an NHRA permanent # to race those races, I seemed to have forgot to reup my membership to NHRA and my perm #. If I do, I'll just race the brackets. Thanks

[MEXJOE]

That's a good question.
I'll see if I can find out the answer to that.
I thought you had to be a NHRA member to race at an NHRA track but I'm not sure?
Something to do with the insurance??

Originally Posted by Joe Demarais

Do you need an NHRA permanent # to race those races, I seemed to have forgot to reup my membership to NHRA and my perm #. If I do, I'll just race the brackets. Thanks

[Scott Dugdale]

Originally Posted by ZenzenRacing

As far as the June race, have the Midwest Guys ever supported BIR at the S/SS Events?? Why cancel that race for S/SS ?

With the amount of races on this weekend and the BIR Divisional the weekend before it was decided to remove this race for S/SS. This race was a conflict last year with Midwest Class Racer event and Joliet Division 3 Points race. That would be the same conflict this year. In the past when BIR had a two day race for the USA group there were multiple cars that were from the Midwest Class Racer group. There is always the option to still race at BIR on June 7th-9th in bracket trim.

[ron mattson]

Sounds like a great deal two races for one tow. We only have so much summer
here may as well take advantage of it. Now lets get after it!!!!!