Merry Xmas! National Event Entry now $310

[C and W Racing]

So what is the average amount of entries at a National event? I would say its at least 500. So an extra 5.00 per entry is 60,000 more in their pockets for the year. Thats a lot of smoke going up someones *****. How much more did they make when chassis certs and license's doubled in price? But I guess its ok because payouts are still the same that they have been for the last 20 years, oh, thats right, its less because there are less company's paying contingency than there used to be.
Chuck

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

$5 is less than a pack of cigarettes....

Say that 20 times and you're now up to $100!

Nickle & diming somebody to death so it doesn't look so bad and is easy to blow off is a long standing business practice!

[Chuck Beach]

Ok, look at the bright side, national events and divisionals does bring together all of your friends from all over for a weekend of fun, competition, entertainment, food and beverage ...

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

$5 is less than a pack of cigarettes....

I heard that last year...

and the year before that....

and the year before that...

and the year before that...

and the year before that...

[Billy Nees]

Gee, I wonder if this could have something to do with the $5 increase?

[novassdude]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

We will see how many So Cal guys are fed up enough to support this -

http://www.famosoraceway.com/images/...-bash-2013.jpg

It is not a beloved NHRA race - it is one of those awful bracket races
No heads up - OMG
No class racing - OMG
Just what we normally do without the dreaded AHFS, fuel check, weighing and NHRA with a hand out

I am sure there are plenty of well and good reasons not to go but not for us

We will be there (Bakersfield)

Two races $2500 to win (E and no E brackets both days)
$225 For Car/Driver and 10 Crew/Spectator
Pre-Entries Get A Free T-Shirt


Ron

From looking at other big dollor bracket races I don't think the gates will be flooded. Most races I have seen with a 2500 dollar payout have a much lower entry fee.

Good luck at the race.

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by novassdude

From looking at other big dollor bracket races I don't think the gates will be flooded. Most races I have seen with a 2500 dollar payout have a much lower entry fee.

Good luck at the race.

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[Mike Carr]

I've seen a better payout to entry ratio races than that, too. But still, not a bad deal. $225 for TWO races, each paying $2,500 to win ($5,000 total). Plus free crew tickets, up to ten people. For comparison, Indy is $355 entry, plus $105 per crew member, and pays $1,800 to win. Granted you have contingency at NHRA/IHRA races, IF (and that's a big if, lately) you can collect your due money. If you get the money you have coming to you, from ten companies @ 300 each, that is an extra $3,000. So, a total of $4,800. One would think that Indy, being the biggest, best race of the year, would pay much better than that. Or any National Event, for that matter ($300 to enter vs $1,500-$1,800 to win).

Here is a comparison, from just ten years ago:

June 2002, Atco LODRS race. Entry: $125. Fourth round loss paid me $175
2012 Atco LODRS race. Entry: $170. Fourth round loss: $150.

A net 70 (seventy) dollar loss from just a decade ago (IHRA is a net seventy-five dollar loss, entry vs fourth round from ten years ago). Motels have gone up quite a bit, gas has more than doubled (cleaning some drawers the other day and found some old receipts, I paid $1.46 for gs on the PA Turnpike on the way to Atco June '02; compared to $3.50 or so now). Toll bill to the NJ state line has doubled, up to forty-five dollars one way. Add up all the other associated costs and fees for pit bikes, golf carts and the like. Doing some quick math, it would take me about 900 or 1000 dollars to do a LODRS at E-town, Cecil, Maple Grove, Chicago, STanton, etc. A racer told me he was runner-up at the 2010 Maple Grove LODRS race. He won $400 (four hundred) plus some sticker money. Not being able to collect on much anyways, if I personally were to get a R/U at a LODRS race next year, I *MIGHT*break even for the weekend. Yes, I know we (most of us) don't do this for the money; at the same time, it would be nice to actually make a dollar or two getting to the final, don't you think? We (not me, I quit because of this type of stuff six years ago) truly must do this for the love of racing and friends--because to an outsider, it must seem ludacrous to pay what we do, to race for what we do.

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

I've seen a better payout to entry ratio races than that, too. But still, not a bad deal. $225 for TWO races, each paying $2,500 to win ($5,000 total). Plus free crew tickets, up to ten people. For comparison, Indy is $355 entry, plus $105 per crew member, and pays $1,800 to win. Granted you have contingency at NHRA/IHRA races, IF (and that's a big if, lately) you can collect your due money. If you get the money you have coming to you, from ten companies @ 300 each, that is an extra $3,000. So, a total of $4,800. One would think that Indy, being the biggest, best race of the year, would pay much better than that. Or any National Event, for that matter ($300 to enter vs $1,500-$1,800 to win).

Here is a comparison, from just ten years ago:

June 2002, Atco LODRS race. Entry: $125. Fourth round loss paid me $175
2012 Atco LODRS race. Entry: $170. Fourth round loss: $150.

A net 70 (seventy) dollar loss from just a decade ago (IHRA is a net seventy-five dollar loss, entry vs fourth round from ten years ago). Motels have gone up quite a bit, gas has more than doubled (cleaning some drawers the other day and found some old receipts, I paid $1.46 for gs on the PA Turnpike on the way to Atco June '02; compared to $3.50 or so now). Toll bill to the NJ state line has doubled, up to forty-five dollars one way. Add up all the other associated costs and fees for pit bikes, golf carts and the like. Doing some quick math, it would take me about 900 or 1000 dollars to do a LODRS at E-town, Cecil, Maple Grove, Chicago, STanton, etc. A racer told me he was runner-up at the 2010 Maple Grove LODRS race. He won $400 (four hundred) plus some sticker money. Not being able to collect on much anyways, if I personally were to get a R/U at a LODRS race next year, I *MIGHT*break even for the weekend. Yes, I know we (most of us) don't do this for the money; at the same time, it would be nice to actually make a dollar or two getting to the final, don't you think? We (not me, I quit because of this type of stuff six years ago) truly must do this for the love of racing and friends--because to an outsider, it must seem ludacrous to pay what we do, to race for what we do.

x2 mike - you get it...you said just about everything I erased - LMFAO

Ron

[Bart Kilraine]

I don't care if they raise it to $500,I'm not really interested in runnig a National Event anymore.Comparison ...........$40 to enter.........$350 class win.Along time ago,but compare entrance to class win now.