Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's

Greg Hill · 10-01-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dinsdale

The traction compound has no effect if the track is prepped properly for the glue they are using. Are you sure there's VHT in the drums or just assuming that if the drum lable says so?

I don't know where you race but the traction compound has a huge effect. I can tell the difference by walking the starting line. VHT is sticky and will try to pull your shoe off and vp is dark black and you can slide your foot across it like a garage floor. The vp stuff can work fair in a limited temperature range but the VHT works in any temp range. NHRA had to change to VHT for national events because of so many problems with vp.

Ed Wright · 10-01-2012, 08:49 AM

I totally agree with Greg. That VP stuff is crap. I had one stick shift guy tell me he couldn't tell the difference, but they need wheel speed.
It sure gives you plenty of that. LOL

CBS · 10-01-2012, 10:36 AM

....In division 3...like Greg said....our director decided to give us a consistent track at all our races....

Even at Columbus....we were able to start at 8:30 am when the temps were low (I had 47) and damp........

I heard the left lane in Bristol was pretty bad....

Rock Haas

Dinsdale · 10-01-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill

I don't know where you race but the traction compound has a huge effect. I can tell the difference by walking the starting line. VHT is sticky and will try to pull your shoe off and vp is dark black and you can slide your foot across it like a garage floor. The vp stuff can work fair in a limited temperature range but the VHT works in any temp range. NHRA had to change to VHT for national events because of so many problems with vp.

Mission Raceway Park has been using VP for several years. It's not black, the stuff sticks to your shoes, cars hook and go fast there. Plenty of records set. I will agree that both have good and bad properties and stick cars seem to prefer VHT but track prep is more that just spraying.

SCohen · 10-01-2012, 01:48 PM

The track was terrible to say the least, cars in every class were loose luckly no one crashed.
I guess the Division Director thinks thats a succesful event. Not a good way to take care of your customers. I guess traction compond is to expensive to apply when you see cars loose run after run. They finally applied some before the second round of T/D and it looked like it made a big difference. Sure would have been nice if they did it as soon as cars were all over the track early on. Not a good way to keep racers coming back.

Steve Cohen

Don Kennedy · 10-01-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SCohen

The track was terrible to say the least, cars in every class were loose luckly no one crashed.
I guess the Division Director thinks thats a succesful event. Not a good way to take care of your customers. I guess traction compond is to expensive to apply when you see cars loose run after run. They finally applied some before the second round of T/D and it looked like it made a big difference. Sure would have been nice if they did it as soon as cars were all over the track early on. Not a good way to keep racers coming back.

Steve Cohen

Steve: Did any racer mentioned to The track personell that the track was junk ??. If they did then the track should have been sprayed? It is the track resonsibility to have a safe track if, not ???

boster · 10-01-2012, 08:00 PM

Don , when I talked to track personnel they stated they had no equipment to work with . The track was in very bad shape from start to finish . I think VHT is the product that should be used by all tracks . The division 3 races I have attend the track's has been great , The Div 1 races that have used VHT have been great as well .

Even the events in Div 1 that they use the VP product they have kept the track in great conditions by spraying and draging the track between classes .

I have been to some races were they will spray the starting line with VP product "AND EVERY TIME I SPIN " . The fact is the track at bristol was not taken care of for what ever the reason and was not safe

Denny Steward · 10-01-2012, 08:23 PM

Bo,
I can tell you its not the first time the track was unsafe for racing. The last points race they held there the left lane was total junk. I watched the five cars in front of blow the tires off, Joe Tysinger was right in front of me and almost took the tree out. At that point I shut my car off in the water and my wife checks the lane the bald spots were bigger than my car. She shows the starter he calls the tower and they told him to run us, at this point I am not very happy. I said I wouldnt run till they fixed it and and there answer was if I didnt stage I was out. So I stage let go of the button and the car spins the worst it ever has. The rest was not so pretty but when I was done at least the rest of the cars behind me had a track they could race on. They just dont get it that we are paying customers and deserve better

Stock4106 · 10-02-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny Steward

Bo,
I can tell you its not the first time the track was unsafe for racing. The last points race they held there the left lane was total junk. I watched the five cars in front of blow the tires off, Joe Tysinger was right in front of me and almost took the tree out. At that point I shut my car off in the water and my wife checks the lane the bald spots were bigger than my car. She shows the starter he calls the tower and they told him to run us, at this point I am not very happy. I said I wouldnt run till they fixed it and and there answer was if I didnt stage I was out. So I stage let go of the button and the car spins the worst it ever has. The rest was not so pretty but when I was done at least the rest of the cars behind me had a track they could race on. They just dont get it that we are paying customers and deserve better

Denny,
I was in the stands when you did that. I hate it came to that, but looking back that is my favorite Bristol memory.

Nathan Stinson · 10-01-2012, 09:18 PM

If the rubber is peeling off the track it doesnt make a difference which compound is on it. That being said if the track is prepped correctly the VP works great.

10-01-2012, 08:49 AM	#2
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's I totally agree with Greg. That VP stuff is crap. I had one stick shift guy tell me he couldn't tell the difference, but they need wheel speed. It sure gives you plenty of that. LOL __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

10-01-2012, 10:36 AM	#3
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's ....In division 3...like Greg said....our director decided to give us a consistent track at all our races.... Even at Columbus....we were able to start at 8:30 am when the temps were low (I had 47) and damp........ I heard the left lane in Bristol was pretty bad.... Rock Haas

10-01-2012, 01:48 PM	#5
SCohen Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FL Posts: 17 Likes: 6 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's The track was terrible to say the least, cars in every class were loose luckly no one crashed. I guess the Division Director thinks thats a succesful event. Not a good way to take care of your customers. I guess traction compond is to expensive to apply when you see cars loose run after run. They finally applied some before the second round of T/D and it looked like it made a big difference. Sure would have been nice if they did it as soon as cars were all over the track early on. Not a good way to keep racers coming back. Steve Cohen

10-01-2012, 08:00 PM	#7
boster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: usa Posts: 958 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's Don , when I talked to track personnel they stated they had no equipment to work with . The track was in very bad shape from start to finish . I think VHT is the product that should be used by all tracks . The division 3 races I have attend the track's has been great , The Div 1 races that have used VHT have been great as well . Even the events in Div 1 that they use the VP product they have kept the track in great conditions by spraying and draging the track between classes . I have been to some races were they will spray the starting line with VP product "AND EVERY TIME I SPIN " . The fact is the track at bristol was not taken care of for what ever the reason and was not safe __________________ Bo Kenney Last edited by boster; 10-01-2012 at 11:03 PM.

10-01-2012, 08:23 PM	#8
Denny Steward Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: PORT ORANGE FL Posts: 283 Likes: 414 Liked 131 Times in 24 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's Bo, I can tell you its not the first time the track was unsafe for racing. The last points race they held there the left lane was total junk. I watched the five cars in front of blow the tires off, Joe Tysinger was right in front of me and almost took the tree out. At that point I shut my car off in the water and my wife checks the lane the bald spots were bigger than my car. She shows the starter he calls the tower and they told him to run us, at this point I am not very happy. I said I wouldnt run till they fixed it and and there answer was if I didnt stage I was out. So I stage let go of the button and the car spins the worst it ever has. The rest was not so pretty but when I was done at least the rest of the cars behind me had a track they could race on. They just dont get it that we are paying customers and deserve better __________________ Denny Steward GT/JA 246

10-01-2012, 09:18 PM	#10
Nathan Stinson Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 114 Likes: 29 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's If the rubber is peeling off the track it doesnt make a difference which compound is on it. That being said if the track is prepped correctly the VP works great.