"Live" from Jegs Northern Sportsnationals 2012 - Page 13

countrypuppy4865 · 09-25-2012, 01:37 PM

Kris,
For the record I didn't say they won't be OK, but the other 100 LS1 cars that were all probably atleast .15 or more slower than them it makes a big difference. Oh, and I never saw you on a qualifying sheet anywhere, so I would appreciate if you back off your keyboard a little bit. Also, he didn't kill 20 mph on the 43 run because the actual mph would probably be around 128-129 as he went 128 on the 30 pass. Also, Kris it appears he shut off at the 1000ft which usually kills around .13-.15. That's how you kill about 17 mph. However, to kill 17mph by shutting off at the 1000ft and still go -.96 you have to be able to run about -1.09-1.11.

countrypuppy4865 · 09-25-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KRatcliff

The HP has been posted. I looked at it and now realized that the Ram Air LS1 Firebird Formulas are now a natural CC/SA car. They cannot get to B/SA without being a Trans Am and the different deck lid.

Edited to add: The flat hood Formula is a natural B.

Kyle, I am pretty sure Trans Am came with both deck lids. It may be the non WS6 trans ams, but I have seen them both ways. They actually had plenty Trans ams that came with the flat hood as well.

69Cobra · 09-25-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrin Christen

On the 10:25 run he may have hit the brake at the last second and tripped it with the nose which would explain the quicker et and higher mph. On the 10:30 run he may have lost some in 60' or earlier in the run and ran it out the back door. On the 10:43 run he probably just shut it off before the firts mph clock. Just a thought. By the way, nice job on your Wally win Saturday night "Cooter".

I understand the theory, I'm just not buying it. Do you understand that this was the final round of class eliminations. Jumping on the break pedal in a heads up run doesn't make much sense, its not like he was trying to keep from breaking out. Edmond went red anyway he could have just coasted down the track. In my opinion he made a full pass under power to help him dial for the next round.

KRatcliff · 09-25-2012, 02:15 PM

I don't think the Trans Ams from 1998 up had the flat deck lid, but you may be right. Either way, if they want to stay in C/SA with the flat deck lid and tech says it is ok then I'll do my best to give them a good run.

Jim Wahl · 09-25-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KRatcliff

I don't think the Trans Ams from 1998 up had the flat deck lid, but you may be right. Either way, if they want to stay in C/SA with the flat deck lid and tech says it is ok then I'll do my best to give them a good run.

You are correct. From '98 and up the Pontiac Formula TransAm Firebird had the spoiler rear deck lid. The Pontiac Formula Firebird had the flat deck lid. I had one of the first LS1 FB to come out. Woodro will probably remember! I bugged him enough! Jim

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cicero819 · 09-25-2012, 02:57 PM

Hoods available in both flat hood and Ws6 options. CR

Darrin Christen · 09-25-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 69Cobra

I understand the theory, I'm just not buying it. Do you understand that this was the final round of class eliminations. Jumping on the break pedal in a heads up run doesn't make much sense, its not like he was trying to keep from breaking out. Edmond went red anyway he could have just coasted down the track. In my opinion he made a full pass under power to help him dial for the next round.

No, I did not know the circumstances of those runs. Just thoughts on how it could have played out. I understand your opinion also, but most people don't have to run it out to know where to dial.

Ed Carpenter · 09-25-2012, 05:40 PM

I don't run a stocker so don't shoot me for commenting! I know one thing the LS1 cars just slid down the ladder some more to the new cars.

Mickey Whaley · 09-25-2012, 08:30 PM

It should be FI, carb, and the new cars in their own classes!

Ed Wright · 09-25-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley

Maybe ed it was the final rd of class edmond redlighted and chris was wide open the race was over before it started no need to dip the nose 10.25 @ 132

Heck of a MPH for a 10.25.

09-25-2012, 01:37 PM	#121
countrypuppy4865 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Donaldsonville, LA Posts: 981 Likes: 17 Liked 228 Times in 70 Posts	Re: "Live" from Jegs Northern Sportsnationals 2012 Kris, For the record I didn't say they won't be OK, but the other 100 LS1 cars that were all probably atleast .15 or more slower than them it makes a big difference. Oh, and I never saw you on a qualifying sheet anywhere, so I would appreciate if you back off your keyboard a little bit. Also, he didn't kill 20 mph on the 43 run because the actual mph would probably be around 128-129 as he went 128 on the 30 pass. Also, Kris it appears he shut off at the 1000ft which usually kills around .13-.15. That's how you kill about 17 mph. However, to kill 17mph by shutting off at the 1000ft and still go -.96 you have to be able to run about -1.09-1.11. __________________ Jimmy "Cooter" Hidalgo, Jr. 4865 E/SA '04 GTO 4865 SS/GA '99 Firebird Last edited by countrypuppy4865; 09-25-2012 at 01:47 PM.

09-25-2012, 02:15 PM	#124
KRatcliff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 769 Likes: 75 Liked 534 Times in 143 Posts	Re: "Live" from Jegs Northern Sportsnationals 2012 I don't think the Trans Ams from 1998 up had the flat deck lid, but you may be right. Either way, if they want to stay in C/SA with the flat deck lid and tech says it is ok then I'll do my best to give them a good run.

09-25-2012, 02:57 PM	#126
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: "Live" from Jegs Northern Sportsnationals 2012 Hoods available in both flat hood and Ws6 options. CR

09-25-2012, 05:40 PM	#128
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,709 Likes: 186 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: "Live" from Jegs Northern Sportsnationals 2012 I don't run a stocker so don't shoot me for commenting! I know one thing the LS1 cars just slid down the ladder some more to the new cars. __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

09-25-2012, 08:30 PM	#129
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: "Live" from Jegs Northern Sportsnationals 2012 It should be FI, carb, and the new cars in their own classes!