New cars, old cars and horsepower ratings.

goinbroke2 · 09-18-2012, 07:24 PM

It would have to read, "any stock engine in any stock body" not just 1980 or newer.
Then new more efficient engines could be in older cars too.

Now the interesting thing I see is on one hand people wanting to run a 68 289 (for example) in a 2005 mustang...and on the other hand others complaining that they need aftermarket heads etc because the parts are drying up!
Others say build a crate motor or allow "these parts" and "those" while others say "leave it alone".

The basic question is, "what is stock"?
Stock body, stock engine?
Stock body any stock engine?
stock body, crate engine?
Crate body, crate engine?
All of the above?

What I have is not competitive (83mustangGT) so I'm building a crate engine. Could build a StockGT too. Great choices, why? Because the rules evolved. Before the GT classes or crate engines it would forever be a bracket car.(tried to find the parts for a 82GT....just not out there) Now it can be a class car.
I guess I'm saying I agree.
It would solve the competitive issue and the parts availability issue. Can
t find any 65 352 castings and don't want aluminum? Drop in what you can find, 71 351C or supercharged 5.4L

The downside of course is trying to explain a "stock" LS engine in a "stock" 69 camaro and calling it a "stock class car" to a bracket racer! LOL!

X-TECH MAN · 09-18-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by goinbroke2

It would have to read, "any stock engine in any stock body" not just 1980 or newer.
Then new more efficient engines could be in older cars too.

Now the interesting thing I see is on one hand people wanting to run a 68 289 (for example) in a 2005 mustang...and on the other hand others complaining that they need aftermarket heads etc because the parts are drying up!
Others say build a crate motor or allow "these parts" and "those" while others say "leave it alone".

The basic question is, "what is stock"?
Stock body, stock engine?
Stock body any stock engine?
stock body, crate engine?
Crate body, crate engine?
All of the above?

What I have is not competitive (83mustangGT) so I'm building a crate engine. Could build a StockGT too. Great choices, why? Because the rules evolved. Before the GT classes or crate engines it would forever be a bracket car.(tried to find the parts for a 82GT....just not out there) Now it can be a class car.
I guess I'm saying I agree.
It would solve the competitive issue and the parts availability issue. Can
t find any 65 352 castings and don't want aluminum? Drop in what you can find, 71 351C or supercharged 5.4L

The downside of course is trying to explain a "stock" LS engine in a "stock" 69 camaro and calling it a "stock class car" to a bracket racer! LOL!

Like Elvis.....REAL "Stock" left the building after 1971. Later on the newer stock left the building in 1985 (any springs and lift check only on the cams, etc..). Most younger guys were not around back in the day so todays jumbled mess is all they know.

Dyno · 09-18-2012, 07:54 PM

I would like to see the SS/GT class add the weight breaks 6.0, 6.5, 7.0 and 7.5 This would help open some more GT cars and classes. Dyno

B Parker · 09-18-2012, 08:13 PM

Wouldn't it be easyer just to give the newer cars there own classes. If you don't think NHRA will do this thats what we all were saying a few years ago right before they started fuel injected classes. How many of you have written a letter letting them know how you feel about the new cars and their hp ratings? Maybe thats a good place to start. Instead of writing here complaining send the letter off to someone who can make a difference. You have to remember NHRA didn't rate the HP for these cars the factories did. They may have let them in but lets not forget this is a business and the new cars are also paying customers. And how much money do you think the factories pump into NHRA . Where would NHRA be without factory support? Let just get them into thier own class. Barry

09-18-2012, 07:24 PM	#1
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 888 Likes: 1,607 Liked 387 Times in 151 Posts	Re: New cars, old cars and horsepower ratings. It would have to read, "any stock engine in any stock body" not just 1980 or newer. Then new more efficient engines could be in older cars too. Now the interesting thing I see is on one hand people wanting to run a 68 289 (for example) in a 2005 mustang...and on the other hand others complaining that they need aftermarket heads etc because the parts are drying up! Others say build a crate motor or allow "these parts" and "those" while others say "leave it alone". The basic question is, "what is stock"? Stock body, stock engine? Stock body any stock engine? stock body, crate engine? Crate body, crate engine? All of the above? What I have is not competitive (83mustangGT) so I'm building a crate engine. Could build a StockGT too. Great choices, why? Because the rules evolved. Before the GT classes or crate engines it would forever be a bracket car.(tried to find the parts for a 82GT....just not out there) Now it can be a class car. I guess I'm saying I agree. It would solve the competitive issue and the parts availability issue. Can t find any 65 352 castings and don't want aluminum? Drop in what you can find, 71 351C or supercharged 5.4L The downside of course is trying to explain a "stock" LS engine in a "stock" 69 camaro and calling it a "stock class car" to a bracket racer! LOL! Last edited by goinbroke2; 09-18-2012 at 07:25 PM. Reason: Can't speel wurth a crap!

09-18-2012, 07:54 PM	#3
Dyno Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 916 Likes: 1,137 Liked 685 Times in 204 Posts	Re: New cars, old cars and horsepower ratings. I would like to see the SS/GT class add the weight breaks 6.0, 6.5, 7.0 and 7.5 This would help open some more GT cars and classes. Dyno

09-18-2012, 08:13 PM	#4
B Parker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 849 Likes: 980 Liked 2,336 Times in 464 Posts	Re: New cars, old cars and horsepower ratings. Wouldn't it be easyer just to give the newer cars there own classes. If you don't think NHRA will do this thats what we all were saying a few years ago right before they started fuel injected classes. How many of you have written a letter letting them know how you feel about the new cars and their hp ratings? Maybe thats a good place to start. Instead of writing here complaining send the letter off to someone who can make a difference. You have to remember NHRA didn't rate the HP for these cars the factories did. They may have let them in but lets not forget this is a business and the new cars are also paying customers. And how much money do you think the factories pump into NHRA . Where would NHRA be without factory support? Let just get them into thier own class. Barry Last edited by B Parker; 09-18-2012 at 08:15 PM.