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Old 09-18-2012, 03:10 PM   #1
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Use the SS GT rules for stock > i think IHRA does this not sure though
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:31 PM   #2
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No sir, Don't like it. Don't like it one bit.
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:34 PM   #3
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No sir, Don't like it. Don't like it one bit.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:02 PM   #4
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When a new car and engine combination gets introduced into Stock or S/S, it should be over factored (2 HP per Cubic inch) so that it has to race to get weight off. It's totally stupid to allow the racers to determine if the car will get factored if they stay into it rather then lift at the 1000'. Either that or NHRA should take into the consideration of the 1/8 mile times with the MPH and look to factor them that way. If they did that, then the new rides would have to lift at the 330'. I would like to see the field get evened out so that EVERY new car doesn't qualifies at INDY see what it is like to watch other racers make into the field without really working on the car.

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Old 09-18-2012, 04:06 PM   #5
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I like the crate engine idea....believe it or not. But 383 Fastburn? It is 1985? And I doubt Chevrolet Performance would go for that. Now the LS376, LSX427, LSX454, LS3? That would be very cool.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:17 PM   #6
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I like the crate engine idea....believe it or not. But 383 Fastburn? It is 1985? And I doubt Chevrolet Performance would go for that. Now the LS376, LSX427, LSX454, LS3? That would be very cool.
I think he is reffering to the 385 HP fast burn that alot of IHRA guys use.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:27 PM   #7
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Having not run a SS/GT car since 1990, I have a question about the GT cars. It was originally developed so those with older S/S cars could use the newer engines as long as that "style" motor was originally available in that "style" body. Is it now OK to use a newer body in GT?
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:26 PM   #8
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When a new car and engine combination gets introduced into Stock or S/S, it should be over factored (2 HP per Cubic inch) so that it has to race to get weight off. It's totally stupid to allow the racers to determine if the car will get factored if they stay into it rather then lift at the 1000'. Either that or NHRA should take into the consideration of the 1/8 mile times with the MPH and look to factor them that way. If they did that, then the new rides would have to lift at the 330'. I would like to see the field get evened out so that EVERY new car doesn't qualifies at INDY see what it is like to watch other racers make into the field without really working on the car.

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nhra knew from the very begining that these combinations were not factored correctly. I have a letter from their attorney that claims the ahfs would take care of it but she did not say when. At least one combination has picked up in excess 100 HP since hitting the track several years ago and it still can get to the top of the sheet. nhra will not alter the current format unless the new car guys demand new classes and it appears they are having too much fun right where they are.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:28 PM   #9
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When a new car and engine combination gets introduced into Stock or S/S, it should be over factored (2 HP per Cubic inch) so that it has to race to get weight off.
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Unfortunately, that wouldn't even be considered for marketing reasons. Few, if any, people would want to make a big investment to start with a basically less than competitive car. Getting the cars out as they do creates a performance incentive to buy one and gives the factories a lot of exposure when their cars get out there and qualify well. It's good that the factories are involved. But it's totally in NHRA's hands as to how they are introduced into the ranks.
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Unfortunately, that wouldn't even be considered for marketing reasons. Few, if any, people would want to make a big investment to start with a basically less than competitive car. Getting the cars out as they do creates a performance incentive to buy one and gives the factories a lot of exposure when their cars get out there and qualify well. It's good that the factories are involved. But it's totally in NHRA's hands as to how they are introduced into the ranks.
I agree with most of your post but I do believe the Big 3 can influence class selection if they were inclined to do the right thing for the sport.
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