The damage recently done

Greg Hill · 09-09-2012, 11:21 PM

I wonder if these parts book parts are going to set a precedent. How about fast burn heads for the Chevys ? Or the stage 2 package for the buicks , or the ram air 5 for the pontiacs? How about the direct connection parts for the mopars? This whole deal is getting stranger and stranger.

SStockDart · 09-10-2012, 12:33 AM

Ya want an AMX? here are a couple of em....

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/3200535312.html

Ed Fernandez · 09-10-2012, 01:33 AM

It's fun listening to the whinning when the big 3 cars have been getting enhancements since the stoneage.Allow the dealer parts,if documented and put a factor on them and go on to whinning about something else,like PAYOUTS.

SSDiv6 · 09-10-2012, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ed fernandez

it's fun listening to the whinning when the big 3 cars have been getting enhancements since the stoneage.allow the dealer parts,if documented and put a factor on them and go on to whinning about something else,like payouts.

x2!

Billy Nees · 09-10-2012, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Allow the dealer parts,if documented and put a factor on them and go on to whinning about something else,like PAYOUTS.

Ya know Eddie, when you're right, you're right.
But "put a factor on them"! The AHFS won't fix them.
i think that 10 for the carb, 10 for the intake, 10 for the cam and 10 for the heads sounds about right. That way, somebody can build an AMX at 355 HP and see if it's competitive. If it's not then ask for HP back and the AHFS has fixed it the right way.
Sounds fair to me, want to start a new thread about payouts?

Ed Fernandez · 09-10-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know Eddie, when you're right, you're right.
But "put a factor on them"! The AHFS won't fix them.
i think that 10 for the carb, 10 for the intake, 10 for the cam and 10 for the heads sounds about right. That way, somebody can build an AMX at 355 HP and see if it's competitive. If it's not then ask for HP back and the AHFS has fixed it the right way.
Sounds fair to me, want to start a new thread about payouts?

I like that.Now throw some more HP on all that "aluminium" (British pronounciation) in all those BBC chevies that need them because they can't find decent castings anymore.

Andrew Hill · 09-10-2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

I like that.Now throw some more HP on all that "aluminium" (British pronounciation) in all those BBC chevies that need them because they can't find decent castings anymore.

Well the aluminum headed 396s do have a higher HP rating

Greg Hill · 09-10-2012, 12:05 PM

Looking back at the parts books from 1970 would be an eye opener. I know more about Chevys because I worked two summers at the Chevy dealership in my hometown. I spent $26 for a 327/350 hp cam for a 283 in 1967. If you go by what's in the parts books and not how the cars came from the factory things would be a whole lot different. The 396 guys could run the zl-1 cam and the 850 carb. The small block guys would get the off road cam which was made for the trans am cars. All the manufacturers had high performance items in their parts books but they were never allowed into stock until the last few years. The reason that these parts were not in the NHRA class guide is that first they didn't come from the factory that way and second Farmer would have never and didn't put them in the guide.

Oh and by the way, the police interceptor manifold was only approved for the cobra jets for super stock and not stock in 1968. To suddenly after 40 plus years find these documents that support letting these parts in is a little suspect at best.

09-10-2012, 10:33 PM

As I remember the BIg Block Chevrolets received a crate motor intake that was much bigger and better than the stock one with no HP penalty. I think it was off of the 502 crate engine. Those cars are going 9.60's not bad as well. Not to much outrage about that.

SSDiv6 · 09-10-2012, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill

I wonder if these parts book parts are going to set a precedent. How about fast burn heads for the Chevys ? Or the stage 2 package for the buicks , or the ram air 5 for the pontiacs? How about the direct connection parts for the mopars? This whole deal is getting stranger and stranger.

It happens that I know of some racers that have tried to get the Stage II and Ram Air V packages approved.

09-09-2012, 11:21 PM	#1
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 69 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: The damage recently done I wonder if these parts book parts are going to set a precedent. How about fast burn heads for the Chevys ? Or the stage 2 package for the buicks , or the ram air 5 for the pontiacs? How about the direct connection parts for the mopars? This whole deal is getting stranger and stranger. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

09-10-2012, 12:33 AM	#2
SStockDart VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arizona, Texan forever Posts: 1,179 Likes: 881 Liked 606 Times in 213 Posts	Re: The damage recently done Ya want an AMX? here are a couple of em.... http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/3200535312.html __________________ Gary Hansen - SS/FA 4911, B/SA 4911

09-10-2012, 01:33 AM	#3
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: The damage recently done It's fun listening to the whinning when the big 3 cars have been getting enhancements since the stoneage.Allow the dealer parts,if documented and put a factor on them and go on to whinning about something else,like PAYOUTS. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

09-10-2012, 12:05 PM	#8
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 69 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: The damage recently done Looking back at the parts books from 1970 would be an eye opener. I know more about Chevys because I worked two summers at the Chevy dealership in my hometown. I spent $26 for a 327/350 hp cam for a 283 in 1967. If you go by what's in the parts books and not how the cars came from the factory things would be a whole lot different. The 396 guys could run the zl-1 cam and the 850 carb. The small block guys would get the off road cam which was made for the trans am cars. All the manufacturers had high performance items in their parts books but they were never allowed into stock until the last few years. The reason that these parts were not in the NHRA class guide is that first they didn't come from the factory that way and second Farmer would have never and didn't put them in the guide. Oh and by the way, the police interceptor manifold was only approved for the cobra jets for super stock and not stock in 1968. To suddenly after 40 plus years find these documents that support letting these parts in is a little suspect at best. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

09-10-2012, 10:33 PM	#9
Todd Hoven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The damage recently done As I remember the BIg Block Chevrolets received a crate motor intake that was much bigger and better than the stock one with no HP penalty. I think it was off of the 502 crate engine. Those cars are going 9.60's not bad as well. Not to much outrage about that.