NHRA Changes the Rules Today

Jeff Teuton · 08-20-2012, 11:47 PM

Aug 20, the rules set for the new Shootout; on June 18, 2012, and the rules change Aug 20 ,2012. Added 100 lbs to the Challenger, and a .400 pro tree ( which is ok), but even a fat guy like me can't gain 100 lbs in 60 days even eating the Cajun Food 6 times a day. I guess the Ford guys got what they wanted. Jessee Kershaw (Ford HP Guy and a good guy), you got more than I thought. You really got the political power with NHRA no matter how many Funny Cars, Pro Stock and more support Mopar has, you got the upper hand with the official car of NHRA. Mopar has been denied a blower, a three speed transmission, (which Ford and Chevy) have, and a 426 block to compete with the 428 Ford and the 427 Chevy, (we have a 392), so I guess we just suck hind ***. And this ain't about the old car vs. the new cars. I have proposed since 2009 that the cars older than 2008 be reduced by 5% accross the board, but to no avail. I love the old cars. I sold them during the height of the Muscle Car era. I even like Ford and Chevy people. They ain't so bad, just misled. This just astounds me that NHRA would just add 100 lbs in a new class they are trying to get going, thru creating another Mustang shootout like ADRL. Somebody please give me a logical explanation for this so I can at least drive to Bowling Green and not run over somebody for driving a Ford. Help me please.

BOB KIRKBRIDE · 08-21-2012, 01:22 AM

Wow! I am against this new rule and I've raced all or them. I had a new 409 back then, then raced Dodges in '64-5 (those days were fun) and now race a N/SS Ford Thunderbolt and prepping a new 5.0. But I can't see why the Mopars can't run a 3 speed or a supercharger. Fair is Fair!

Jim Wahl · 08-21-2012, 02:05 AM

Hey Jeff, (Mike Crutchfield D2 SRAC Rep) announced a couple of weeks ago:
"In 2013 it will be OK for anyone running a 3 speed automatic transmission to run a 2 speed trans and if you have a 2 speed you will be able to run a 3 speed. Your option ( this was previously passed for super stock in my last update for 2013)".
Doesn't that include the Dodges? Jim

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Peter Ash · 08-21-2012, 03:36 AM

I want a Blower TOO!

jmcarter · 08-21-2012, 05:30 AM

Simply amazing they would change the rules at this point. .400 pro tree is going to change the game as well but it's almost like telling Dodge to stay on the porch for this one.

Here's the revised rules...

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...075&zoneid=132

Brett C · 08-21-2012, 08:23 AM

I agree Mr. Jeff! Cannot change the rules this close to the game. Even though I am currently wheeling a CJ, totally bogus change for the V10. And what the hay is up with a pro tree???? Do they want folks in stock to be like the hemi guys and just show up for the shootout and leave? Talk about throw your driving off! We were still considering to run in it, but now they are making less enticing! May have to let Joey beat me up in BB again! See you guys there.

Brett Candies
4192 Stock/SS

Jeff Teuton · 08-21-2012, 08:25 AM

The three speed rule applies next year.

BlueOval Ralph · 08-21-2012, 08:35 AM

Just like Sports Car Racing in the US! He who whines the loudest and last gets the last change before the race. There needs to be a rule that there are no rule changes 15 days before the start of a race.

D.Johns · 08-21-2012, 08:38 AM

Ford built their car and was the first of the new generation drag cars. It is not Fords fault that Mopar didn't build a Drag Pack with a blower and a 3 speed auto or speced them out that way. NHRA didn't give the Fords that. Ford built the CJs that way and speced them that way. You want a 3 speed and a blower you have a few options to choose from. Maybe next year Mopar will give you a third. Your beef should be with Mopar not NHRA(or Ford).

As for the 100# that hurt! That surprised me. I feel for you guys in the V10 cars to get hit with 100# before a race ever happened. Perhaps they(NHRA) based it off of some performance numbers they have acquired?? I don't like them(NHRA) hanging 100# on anyone this close to the race. The pro-tree? I love that everything should be pro-tree but that's me.

I seriously doubt it was due to your suggested Jesse Kershaw lobbying for a rule change. That really doesn't look good on your part to come in blasting one of the sponsors of the site as well as a big supporter of Drag Racing advancement programs.

Andys dad · 08-21-2012, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

The three speed rule applies next year.

Can we run our transmission adapter - which came on the car from the factory - so we can use a ProTrans 3spd - the same converter and same driveshaft?
Or
Do we need to loose the crank shaft extension - change the converter, change the drive shaft and use a transmission with a different bolt pattern?

I guess showing we might just be competitive did not help (we cannot beat the fastest blown CJs).

We will save our money for the real western swing - Vegas, Vegas, Vegas and Pomona

Ron

BTW my money is on a "light weight V8 drag pak - 675 lbs is a lot

08-20-2012, 11:47 PM	#1
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	NHRA Changes the Rules Today Aug 20, the rules set for the new Shootout; on June 18, 2012, and the rules change Aug 20 ,2012. Added 100 lbs to the Challenger, and a .400 pro tree ( which is ok), but even a fat guy like me can't gain 100 lbs in 60 days even eating the Cajun Food 6 times a day. I guess the Ford guys got what they wanted. Jessee Kershaw (Ford HP Guy and a good guy), you got more than I thought. You really got the political power with NHRA no matter how many Funny Cars, Pro Stock and more support Mopar has, you got the upper hand with the official car of NHRA. Mopar has been denied a blower, a three speed transmission, (which Ford and Chevy) have, and a 426 block to compete with the 428 Ford and the 427 Chevy, (we have a 392), so I guess we just suck hind ***. And this ain't about the old car vs. the new cars. I have proposed since 2009 that the cars older than 2008 be reduced by 5% accross the board, but to no avail. I love the old cars. I sold them during the height of the Muscle Car era. I even like Ford and Chevy people. They ain't so bad, just misled. This just astounds me that NHRA would just add 100 lbs in a new class they are trying to get going, thru creating another Mustang shootout like ADRL. Somebody please give me a logical explanation for this so I can at least drive to Bowling Green and not run over somebody for driving a Ford. Help me please. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

08-21-2012, 01:22 AM	#2
BOB KIRKBRIDE Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 62 Likes: 4 Liked 15 Times in 2 Posts	Re: NHRA Changes the Rules Today Wow! I am against this new rule and I've raced all or them. I had a new 409 back then, then raced Dodges in '64-5 (those days were fun) and now race a N/SS Ford Thunderbolt and prepping a new 5.0. But I can't see why the Mopars can't run a 3 speed or a supercharger. Fair is Fair!

08-21-2012, 02:05 AM	#3
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: NHRA Changes the Rules Today Hey Jeff, (Mike Crutchfield D2 SRAC Rep) announced a couple of weeks ago: "In 2013 it will be OK for anyone running a 3 speed automatic transmission to run a 2 speed trans and if you have a 2 speed you will be able to run a 3 speed. Your option ( this was previously passed for super stock in my last update for 2013)". Doesn't that include the Dodges? Jim . __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

08-21-2012, 03:36 AM	#4
Peter Ash Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 262 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA Changes the Rules Today I want a Blower TOO!

08-21-2012, 05:30 AM	#5
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,295 Likes: 2,372 Liked 3,174 Times in 971 Posts	Re: NHRA Changes the Rules Today Simply amazing they would change the rules at this point. .400 pro tree is going to change the game as well but it's almost like telling Dodge to stay on the porch for this one. Here's the revised rules... http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...075&zoneid=132 __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

08-21-2012, 08:23 AM	#6
Brett C VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 1,194 Likes: 327 Liked 1,018 Times in 217 Posts	Re: NHRA Changes the Rules Today I agree Mr. Jeff! Cannot change the rules this close to the game. Even though I am currently wheeling a CJ, totally bogus change for the V10. And what the hay is up with a pro tree???? Do they want folks in stock to be like the hemi guys and just show up for the shootout and leave? Talk about throw your driving off! We were still considering to run in it, but now they are making less enticing! May have to let Joey beat me up in BB again! See you guys there. Brett Candies 4192 Stock/SS

08-21-2012, 08:25 AM	#7
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: NHRA Changes the Rules Today The three speed rule applies next year. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

08-21-2012, 08:35 AM	#8
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA Changes the Rules Today Just like Sports Car Racing in the US! He who whines the loudest and last gets the last change before the race. There needs to be a rule that there are no rule changes 15 days before the start of a race.

08-21-2012, 08:38 AM	#9
D.Johns Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 437 Likes: 15 Liked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Re: NHRA Changes the Rules Today Ford built their car and was the first of the new generation drag cars. It is not Fords fault that Mopar didn't build a Drag Pack with a blower and a 3 speed auto or speced them out that way. NHRA didn't give the Fords that. Ford built the CJs that way and speced them that way. You want a 3 speed and a blower you have a few options to choose from. Maybe next year Mopar will give you a third. Your beef should be with Mopar not NHRA(or Ford). As for the 100# that hurt! That surprised me. I feel for you guys in the V10 cars to get hit with 100# before a race ever happened. Perhaps they(NHRA) based it off of some performance numbers they have acquired?? I don't like them(NHRA) hanging 100# on anyone this close to the race. The pro-tree? I love that everything should be pro-tree but that's me. I seriously doubt it was due to your suggested Jesse Kershaw lobbying for a rule change. That really doesn't look good on your part to come in blasting one of the sponsors of the site as well as a big supporter of Drag Racing advancement programs. __________________ 2014 Cobra Jet FS/XX #3345 STK/SS Like us on http://www.facebook.com/pages/Daniel...25886327426822 Last edited by D.Johns; 08-21-2012 at 08:42 AM.