I need to vent !!!

[louie conkey]

I know I said "no more National Events" & I'm entered for Indy. (An old habit)
I seldom post on this forum, but I'm breaking down tonight & adding a few comments:
I pay my NHRA fees to be a "Class Racer". NHRA now presents a racer who is the single competitor in a class represented at a national event with a combo race, which includes all these single cars. We pay to run a national event "class race", not a "combo" winner-take-all bracket race. The single trophy is an insult to the car owners/drivers who have researched, developed & campaigned their unique combinations.
Due to my feelings on this matter, I will have a petition with me at Indy to present to NHRA. If you agree, please find me there or I'll find you to sign my petition.
The Class Racer traditions in NHRA is long standing and of historical importance to the traditions of this racing body. I think we have let NHRA do this to us and I'm not happy about any of this.
Of course, mentioning what I'm not hapy about open a few cans of worms. Consider the mandatory subscription to "National Dragster" to be spoon fed a constant diet of the John Force & Don Schumacher's boys & girls. And consider that we pay an ever increasing fee for insurance coverage we have never seen in policy form and probably have never used or needed....
I know most of this has been said before, but I feel better now.
SEE YOU AT INDY, PROBABLY IN "TEAR DOWN"... LEW

[greg johnson]

NICELY said, Louis!!!.................... & not to mention "WAY overdue!!!!!

[art leong]

I fought this battle a while back. Get ready to be called a lot of things including a "crybaby"
My feelings go with you. But it's not a bracket race by any stretch.
If you get there first you win. No shoe polish, index to index.
So the soft combo or soft index. Has a marked advantage.
If you can play the qualifying game right and can run the fastest car in the first round (the only one that counts towards qualifying). You might not have to burn the AHFS to bad.

All the combo BS did was save nhra a bunch of money on trophies (so they think).
When you look at the car counts. And figure if at least 5 more cars would have entered (under the old rules) It cost the stupid b*******s money

[Tom Moock]

Art, all runs for class runs count on the average`s for AHFS. Tom

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by louie conkey

I pay my NHRA fees to be a "Class Racer". NHRA now presents a racer who is the single competitor in a class represented at a national event with a combo race, which includes all these single cars. We pay to run a national event "class race", not a "combo" winner-take-all bracket race. The single trophy is an insult to the car owners/drivers who have researched, developed & campaigned their unique combinations.

I think you are 100% on this. It is not the competitors fault if they are the only one that shows up for a certain class. They should not be penalized.

[rseibenick]

Lou , to go along with what you said is , at all national events that have class racing , give a trophy to those cars that win class, if they are 10 cars or a single car in the same class. Give the cars with more then 1 car in the class ,the contingincy dollars ,like it is now. The classes with only 1 car in it ,give them a NHRA trophy and then if they want to ,run the combo for the contingency $ . Lot of guys may give NHRA the $ to go to a national event and a least win a trophy . There are a lot of unquie combos out there and I have not seen them in the last few years at the national events. NHRA may get a few more cars at those events. A good trade off , $355, plus what you spent at the NHRA tents . etc. for only a trophy thats cost ?. Its a good business idea that NHRA may consider with the low car count. Yes , I know the economy is bad and all that. But, its a idea to consider, can't hurt.

[SS/GSI]

Originally Posted by rseibenick

Lou , to go along with what you said is , at all national events that have class racing , give a trophy to those cars that win class, if they are 10 cars or a single car in the same class. Give the cars with more then 1 car in the class ,the contingincy dollars ,like it is now. The classes with only 1 car in it ,give them a NHRA trophy and then if they want to ,run the combo for the contingency $ . Lot of guys may give NHRA the $ to go to a national event and a least win a trophy . There are a lot of unquie combos out there and I have not seen them in the last few years at the national events. NHRA may get a few more cars at those events. A good trade off , $355, plus what you spent at the NHRA tents . etc. for only a trophy thats cost ?. Its a good business idea that NHRA may consider with the low car count. Yes , I know the economy is bad and all that. But, its a idea to consider, can't hurt.

Makes sense to me. NHRA is gotta get it sooner than later, hopefully! I also believe class in Stock or Super Stock should be apart of every National Event on an alternating basis and each division should get a Sportsnational, especially Div. 1. I might be a little bias on that last one, lol!

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Tom Moock

Art, all runs for class runs count on the average`s for AHFS. Tom

The first run goes towards the qualifying sheet. So if you run -.98, -.1.05, in qualifying then runs then run -1.03 in the first round of class Only the -1.05 counts towards the ahfs. Q run
Starting in the second round of class the all individually count. E runs.
This I know for a fact.

[Jack McCarthy]

dirt wasnt even tamped down on wally's grave when the class winner enters the eliminator was done away with ... WALLY designed it so EVERY CLASS was represented in the eliminator, not 128 CJ & Dragpaks (and a few TRUCKS)...

THEN they shoved the combo race up our, excuse me ken, down our throats... like i built a 60 chevy wagon to heads up 150 mph CJ's ... yeah keep your stinking wally ive got about 20 of them.

captain

ill find ya lou... wont do no good but ill sign!!!!

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

dirt wasnt even tamped down on wally's grave when the class winner enters the eliminator was done away with ... WALLY designed it so EVERY CLASS was represented in the eliminator, not 128 CJ & Dragpaks (and a few TRUCKS)...

THEN they shoved the combo race up our, excuse me ken, down our throats... like i built a 60 chevy wagon to heads up 150 mph CJ's ... yeah keep your stinking wally ive got about 20 of them.

captain

ill find ya lou... wont do no good but ill sign!!!!

Be careful Jack you will soon be called a crybaby. Because you don't have a bunch of cars in your class. It's all your fault. You could have built a Camaro.