Low Turn out for Indy?

Dick Butler · 08-14-2012, 10:30 AM

Have to remember age of the racers. Many have totally retired from racing or passed away. The lack of younger Class racers due to lower income of their generation or lack of a family habit of racing could be a major part too.
The level of cost and sophistication of Stock and SS is WAY above entry level for todays younger people. Time for a Spec class with any body legal based on wt and cubic inchs like old MOD. That would simplify entry and lower cost at least at first.
Like it or not these are the facts.

Billy Nees · 08-14-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Time for a Spec class with any body legal based on wt and cubic inchs like old MOD. That would simplify entry and lower cost at least at first.
Like it or not these are the facts.

Dick, I'm sorry to have to tell you this but you're dreaming again. Believe me, I'd LOVE to see something like the original Super Mod classes again but the kids won't go for it and inexpensive? Please.

VStock · 08-14-2012, 11:25 AM

Maybe we need a Senior Dragster program - like the Jr Dragster but for us old folks.

Rob Lloyd · 08-14-2012, 02:06 PM

I'd love to be going again this year, but it's hard to justify spending a third of my vacation time and a couple grand to do it...

Superfan1 · 08-16-2012, 05:23 PM

Total entries at 686, Super Stock at 166, and Stock at 134; still 11 days to go before the deadline on Aug. 27.

Dick Butler · 08-14-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Dick, I'm sorry to have to tell you this but you're dreaming again. Believe me, I'd LOVE to see something like the original Super Mod classes again but the kids won't go for it and inexpensive? Please.

Billy, Without dreams (thoughts) no changes, no advances are made. Want more people, make it cheap. Guys could learn automotive again if they had a BASIC motor. 350, pg. 3000 lb or more. Only ONE carb choice, one head number,

SSDiv6 · 08-14-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Billy, Without dreams (thoughts) no changes, no advances are made. Want more people, make it cheap. Guys could learn automotive again if they had a BASIC motor. 350, pg. 3000 lb or more. Only ONE carb choice, one head number,

A Chevy only class?
I have to agree with Billy...even with a Chevy engine and Powerglide, it would not be cheap.

Billy Nees · 08-14-2012, 03:11 PM

Dick, could I suggest starting a new thread about this? No sense in hijacking Jeffs thread.

Bench Racer · 08-14-2012, 08:32 PM

I will give you my opinon on the low car count. Before you bash me I don't have a car so save the key board hero stuff for someone that may care. I have driven to indy from North Carolina several times just to watch class runs in stock and superstock and leave, never watching a pro car make a pass. As a matter of fact I spent 5 days at Indy last year with my brother who has a SS/GT car and never watched a nitro pass. The new qualifying to get in on monday and class win means nothing has hurt the car count for Indy in my opinion. Any idiot knows a Gremlin, a 265 chevy, or a pinto wagon will have a hard time racing on monday. The line up for superstock and stock will be GT cars and new sheet metal. My brother has ran SS/GT for years but my heart is in traditional stockers and superstockers. I wish NHRA would wake up, there are still a few of us that enjoyed going to Indy to see each class with cars in it. Don Jackson

art leong · 08-15-2012, 09:47 AM

I think it's a combination of many things 5 cars for this reason, 8 cars for that reason, etc, etc.
The combo thing, the qualify only thing, the low class win money, the high costs to get there and race, the length of the race. And NHRA's hurry up and wait policies.

08-14-2012, 10:30 AM	#1
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Low Turn out for Indy? Have to remember age of the racers. Many have totally retired from racing or passed away. The lack of younger Class racers due to lower income of their generation or lack of a family habit of racing could be a major part too. The level of cost and sophistication of Stock and SS is WAY above entry level for todays younger people. Time for a Spec class with any body legal based on wt and cubic inchs like old MOD. That would simplify entry and lower cost at least at first. Like it or not these are the facts.

08-14-2012, 11:25 AM	#3
VStock Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Freeland, Michigan Posts: 19 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Low Turn out for Indy? Maybe we need a Senior Dragster program - like the Jr Dragster but for us old folks. __________________ Marty Knox

08-14-2012, 02:06 PM	#4
Rob Lloyd Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Whitmore Lake, MI Posts: 60 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Low Turn out for Indy? I'd love to be going again this year, but it's hard to justify spending a third of my vacation time and a couple grand to do it... __________________ Rob Lloyd 3728 BF/S

08-16-2012, 05:23 PM	#5
Superfan1 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bridgeport,CT. Posts: 1,993 Likes: 1,664 Liked 2,637 Times in 440 Posts	Re: Low Turn out for Indy? Total entries at 686, Super Stock at 166, and Stock at 134; still 11 days to go before the deadline on Aug. 27. __________________ Bill Seabrooks - superfan1 Bridgeport, CT

08-14-2012, 03:11 PM	#8
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,493 Likes: 3,595 Liked 7,716 Times in 1,738 Posts	Re: Low Turn out for Indy? Dick, could I suggest starting a new thread about this? No sense in hijacking Jeffs thread. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

08-14-2012, 08:32 PM	#9
Bench Racer Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Green Creek (Tryon) North Carolina Posts: 331 Likes: 69 Liked 99 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Low Turn out for Indy? I will give you my opinon on the low car count. Before you bash me I don't have a car so save the key board hero stuff for someone that may care. I have driven to indy from North Carolina several times just to watch class runs in stock and superstock and leave, never watching a pro car make a pass. As a matter of fact I spent 5 days at Indy last year with my brother who has a SS/GT car and never watched a nitro pass. The new qualifying to get in on monday and class win means nothing has hurt the car count for Indy in my opinion. Any idiot knows a Gremlin, a 265 chevy, or a pinto wagon will have a hard time racing on monday. The line up for superstock and stock will be GT cars and new sheet metal. My brother has ran SS/GT for years but my heart is in traditional stockers and superstockers. I wish NHRA would wake up, there are still a few of us that enjoyed going to Indy to see each class with cars in it. Don Jackson

08-15-2012, 09:47 AM	#10
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Low Turn out for Indy? I think it's a combination of many things 5 cars for this reason, 8 cars for that reason, etc, etc. The combo thing, the qualify only thing, the low class win money, the high costs to get there and race, the length of the race. And NHRA's hurry up and wait policies. __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS